My CTS-V Brake Setup (Planned)
05-14-2013, 06:12 AM
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Just an FYI i tried fitting CTS-V calipers under 17" zr1 wheels and 17" c5z06 wheels. Neither would safely fit. I actually ended up ruining a caliper and I had to eat it and buy another one. Do yourself a favor and just get 18s. C5z06 wheels in an 18x9.5 will fit with a 57mm offset or less ONLY if you run 2010 SS rotors and dont space out the caliper. Otherwise if you have to space out the caliper youll be buying spacers, most likely at least 1/4". I just went through this hell, with what originally started with "Oh Ill do this brake swap, its easy!" I am going to make a thread about it. It turned into a clusterfuck. So if you have any questions please ask away.
05-15-2013, 04:17 PM
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I have Brakemotive on my Nissan. Nothing wrong with them. I'll see how they hold up to Hawk HPS pads. I've seen folks say they warp with aggressive pads. But for basically $40 a rotor... meh.
R1 seems to do a little better with their premium rotors with higher carbon content. I guess we'll see. The OE pads for the CTS-V are more aggressive than HPS pads...
And that's my concern. Not a lot of machine shops around here. I would think a rotor manufacturer could adjust the boring on the rotor for custom specs...
R1 seems to do a little better with their premium rotors with higher carbon content. I guess we'll see. The OE pads for the CTS-V are more aggressive than HPS pads...
And that's my concern. Not a lot of machine shops around here. I would think a rotor manufacturer could adjust the boring on the rotor for custom specs...
05-15-2013, 09:14 PM
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I have Brakemotive on my Nissan. Nothing wrong with them. I'll see how they hold up to Hawk HPS pads. I've seen folks say they warp with aggressive pads. But for basically $40 a rotor... meh.
R1 seems to do a little better with their premium rotors with higher carbon content. I guess we'll see. The OE pads for the CTS-V are more aggressive than HPS pads...
And that's my concern. Not a lot of machine shops around here. I would think a rotor manufacturer could adjust the boring on the rotor for custom specs...
R1 seems to do a little better with their premium rotors with higher carbon content. I guess we'll see. The OE pads for the CTS-V are more aggressive than HPS pads...
And that's my concern. Not a lot of machine shops around here. I would think a rotor manufacturer could adjust the boring on the rotor for custom specs...
I have brakemotive 2010 rotors on my car now and Ive had their rotors in the past with my stock calipers and I have nothing but great things to say about them.
I called 12 local machine shops. 10 flat out said no, and one said it wouldnt be a problem but he was going to charge me a $75 flat rate and then time on top of that and said "I will need them for the whole day" so he was trying to bend me over and the other said "I cant quote you until I see how long it takes to set up in my machine" seems like he was also trying to bend me over because once he had the rotor in the lathe what was I going to say if I didnt like the quote, take it back out? So I ended up finding someone through a friend to help me out. Worked out in the end, but a hassle to say the least.
05-15-2013, 11:16 PM
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I hate you GM. Why did you change the hub bore lol.
But hopefully R1 can do something for not too much. If not, I'll see who around here could do it. I talked to Mark and Gil at 6LE and the Spyders will clear at 40mm but with the SS rotors - not the Z06. So, I definitely would rather not run spacers on the calipers AND wheels. Ugh.
But hopefully R1 can do something for not too much. If not, I'll see who around here could do it. I talked to Mark and Gil at 6LE and the Spyders will clear at 40mm but with the SS rotors - not the Z06. So, I definitely would rather not run spacers on the calipers AND wheels. Ugh.
05-16-2013, 06:27 AM
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I hate you GM. Why did you change the hub bore lol.
But hopefully R1 can do something for not too much. If not, I'll see who around here could do it. I talked to Mark and Gil at 6LE and the Spyders will clear at 40mm but with the SS rotors - not the Z06. So, I definitely would rather not run spacers on the calipers AND wheels. Ugh.
But hopefully R1 can do something for not too much. If not, I'll see who around here could do it. I talked to Mark and Gil at 6LE and the Spyders will clear at 40mm but with the SS rotors - not the Z06. So, I definitely would rather not run spacers on the calipers AND wheels. Ugh.
05-16-2013, 10:18 AM
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Another, more costly option, is Racing Brake. They make 2-piece rotors for the SS and Z06. They come in around $900, but it's an aluminum hub and iron disc assembly (like a high-end Brembo or StopTech kit). I'm going to contact them and see if they can swap out the hub on the SS brake rotor for the Corvette and sell a custom offset 355mm rotor. Apparently, that would save about ~7lbs compared to the stock GM rotors and keep the weight very close to the stock 11.9" F-Body rotor. Of course, you're now looking at a $1200 brake kit vs 600, but that's still a lot less than Stoptech or Brembo, and of comparable quality and with a bigger rotor on top of it. Sounds good.
If you can find 18x9.5 40mm offset rims that are equivalent in weight to the stock 17s (and I think the Spyders are close) you wouldn't have to add weight with a hubcentric spacer. The the entire setup, wheels + brakes would be within a few pounds of stock and provide much better thermal properties...
If you can find 18x9.5 40mm offset rims that are equivalent in weight to the stock 17s (and I think the Spyders are close) you wouldn't have to add weight with a hubcentric spacer. The the entire setup, wheels + brakes would be within a few pounds of stock and provide much better thermal properties...
05-16-2013, 12:30 PM
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Racing Brake got back to me - they can do it and are wondering if anyone else would be interested in the same setup?
Link to the SS Rotor: http://www.racingbrake.com/CAMARO-SS...-11-p/2138.htm
Link to the SS Rotor: http://www.racingbrake.com/CAMARO-SS...-11-p/2138.htm
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05-16-2013, 07:13 PM
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Racing Brake said to order the CTS-V 04-07 rotor with the Z06 aluminum hub.
Here is the correct p/n: http://www.racingbrake.com/CTwo-piec...-07-p/2114.htm
BTW - they would be open to a group purchase if people were interested? Should I create another thread for that?
Here is what I'm pretty set on:
CTS-V Brembo 4-Piston Calipers
Hawk HP Plus Front and Rear Brake Pads (or maybe the OE pads and stoptech rear? hmm?)
Racing Brake Slotted 2-Piece CTS-V Rotor/Z06 Hub Front Rotors and 1-Piece F-Body Rear Rotors
Flynbye CTS-V/TCS F-Body Stainless Steel Brake Line Kit
ATE Type 200 Brake Fluid
Reproduction Z06 Spyder 18x9.5+40 F and 19x12+59 R Black Wheels
Nitto NT05 275/35-18 F and 335/30-19 R Tires
Should bolt right together. The biggest pain will be the 19x12s. Wish that was available as a 19x11 with a 45mm offset...
Here is the correct p/n: http://www.racingbrake.com/CTwo-piec...-07-p/2114.htm
BTW - they would be open to a group purchase if people were interested? Should I create another thread for that?
Here is what I'm pretty set on:
CTS-V Brembo 4-Piston Calipers
Hawk HP Plus Front and Rear Brake Pads (or maybe the OE pads and stoptech rear? hmm?)
Racing Brake Slotted 2-Piece CTS-V Rotor/Z06 Hub Front Rotors and 1-Piece F-Body Rear Rotors
Flynbye CTS-V/TCS F-Body Stainless Steel Brake Line Kit
ATE Type 200 Brake Fluid
Reproduction Z06 Spyder 18x9.5+40 F and 19x12+59 R Black Wheels
Nitto NT05 275/35-18 F and 335/30-19 R Tires
Should bolt right together. The biggest pain will be the 19x12s. Wish that was available as a 19x11 with a 45mm offset...
05-16-2013, 07:26 PM
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These aren't Cheapo rotors tho. And if you look at like the Baer or Wilwood kits, they are $1500+
A bolt-on Corvette kit is around $800. Using Z06 rotors and calipers? About $1400 from Kore3.
This kit - rotors (way superior to what you find on the Z06 kits), Flynebye or Kore3 lines, the CTS-V rotors, and the OE pads put you in under $1400. For what is essentially the $3000 Brembo kit - just at 14" vs 13" - so to me, when you compare to what you're looking at, it's a good value. Is it more than using the Z06 rotors or machined 2010 Camaro rotors? Yeah - but is is better than those and a true bolt on? Absolutely.
A bolt-on Corvette kit is around $800. Using Z06 rotors and calipers? About $1400 from Kore3.
This kit - rotors (way superior to what you find on the Z06 kits), Flynebye or Kore3 lines, the CTS-V rotors, and the OE pads put you in under $1400. For what is essentially the $3000 Brembo kit - just at 14" vs 13" - so to me, when you compare to what you're looking at, it's a good value. Is it more than using the Z06 rotors or machined 2010 Camaro rotors? Yeah - but is is better than those and a true bolt on? Absolutely.