LIL SS

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This is for anyone interested in what they look like. So far I am happy with them. I am running them without the torque arm. I only have a couple testing days on them so I don't have any track results yet. I had to shorten them slightly (about 1 inch) and re-tap them to get my pinion angle right which I did tonight.

When you step on it, you can literally feel the rear axle plant in to the ground while the rear of the car lifts. Very neat feeling.

You will have to cut and paste these links.

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2w0s060

They look good, I have never seen them before. Looks like you actually had to weld them to the axle?

4mula1

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LIL SS

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CUT AND PASTE THE LINKS

Pro Stock John

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Nice. Did you remove the torque arm or do you have it in there without a bushing?

LIL SS

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No TQ arm at all.

BTW John, Need those e-brake cables

John95Z28

So the goal of these parts is to eliminate the torque arm completely? Never heard of it before, but from the pictures they look like upper control arms which work together with the LCA's. Are there any negative effects to handling during normal street driving?

Please, tell us more

LIL SS

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Madman recomends leaving the TQ arm on the car but leaving the front trans mount free floating in a 2x3 box incase something breaks. Personally I see no reason to do so.

So far the car feel 100% normal in corners and over bumps. However, since I have no front sway bar and I was driving around on DR's @ 18psi, I was not banging corners real hard. No problem with driveways or suspension travel yet. More will come as I drive it more.

2001CamaroGuy

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"kind of" like a 4 link setup then......

you said you removed the tq arm yet madman says not to remove it? what would be wrong with removing the tq arm? as I see it these bars would take the place of the tq arm and as such make it not needed anymore.

felton316

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Brandon98TA

Keep us updated, I would love to get rid of my torque arm.

Slowverado

nice setup....what does the top bar connect to though? i looked at the pics but i couldn't really tell...

John95Z28

I was wondering that myself - couldn't quite tell from LIL SS's pictures, so I looked up the part on Madman's website (link at right -->) and I think the "upper" control arm just bolts to the lower control arm via a spherical rod end. I guess there's no other convenient attachment point on the chassis for the upper arm to connect with.

Slowverado

hmm, well i just bought a set of badz LCAs, you probably have to use the boxed type for these to work...

John95Z28

Yeah, they're connected together (upper and lower) plus the bracket that attaches to the rear axle as a package. At least that's how it looks.

Check it out http://www.madmanandcoracing.com/low...rolarmkit.html

2w0s060

Do you use the stk control arm? that is what it looks like

rons 00z

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i saw someone doing this on the other site but theirs was upside down

LIL SS

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The upside down set up was the Lakewood lift bar kit. After getting 2 pairs from various sources, I saw they were all starting to break in 2 different spots. I decided they were too weak to put on a car with no TQ arm.

The front heim connects to a bracket that comes with the kit.

I am using Hotchkis LCA's and the Pete Z bars are built to use them. There are 2 holes in the Hotchkis LCA's that the PZ bars bolt through.


I am planing on buying a set of tubular LCA's, using my tube notcher to make the upper bar, making a real ladder bar for the rear in the future. I would also be making a braket for the front to adjust ICG but this wont be done tomorrow. Just enjoying being able to drive the car right now

technical

Do they require adjusting?

LIL SS

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Not sure what you mean. They are adjustable if that is your question.