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Old Jan 29, 2015 | 06:19 AM
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I had the opportunity to drive a Ferrari F430 around a track, on a couple occasions, last year. My curiosity is can a third gen camaro or G body(87 ss monte)be made to handle as well as the Ferrari. I'm talking ready made aftermarket suspension parts mated to the original frame.

For arguments sake, same driver, same road course, same power/weight ratio

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Old Jan 29, 2015 | 06:30 AM
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with enough money im sure a g body could.

i mean there is an 4th gen f body that dominates gtrs every year on the road coarse at the tx2k meet.
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No, it will never be like a Ferrari 430, ever.

That Camaro at the Texas events is a full tube frame race car, GT1 spec. 700+ hp weighs around 2500 lbs. Shares absolutely nothing with a production car.
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Old Jan 29, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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No, it will never be like a Ferrari 430, ever.

That Camaro at the Texas events is a full tube frame race car, GT1 spec. 700+ hp weighs around 2500 lbs. Shares absolutely nothing with a production car.
Thank god. Noone wants a F body to be like a Ferrari..... that when you break anything you have to morgage your house. Brakes.. 15 Grand. Cat back exhaust 20 Grand. Headers 15 grand. Engine breaks your car is totaled. No THANKS. Ferrari's are made for looking pretty unless you have a few million to **** away at keeping it running at the track.

You could make your F body just like the GT1 spec for he price of the Ferrari's exhaust.... and have 1000 HP.

Ferrari and F bodies were designed for different jobs. Ferrari = track if your rich/looking pretty F body = 1/4 mile.

I looked into buying a used Ferrari or Lambo Gallardo, but after looking at the cost of parts. No Thanks. Viper/Vettes were the logical choice of the poor man.

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Old Jan 29, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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Thanks guys,

Just thought it would be cool to beat them up on the road course.

I agree, Ferrari/Lambo was fun to drive but the cost of maintenance would be unreal, would hate to see what an oil change costs, lol
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There is a huge difference in making one as fast as a Ferrari, than making one handle like a Ferrari. You can make an f-body fast if you open up your wallet, but it will never have the precise feel and balance of a supercar.
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 79_T/A
There is a huge difference in making one as fast as a Ferrari, than making one handle like a Ferrari. You can make an f-body fast if you open up your wallet, but it will never have the precise feel and balance of a supercar.
Well stated.

If that was a true goal of yours, I'd start with a better platform (C5 Z06 for example) and you could get similar (yet still different) handling performance for less than the cost of the exotic.
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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If money isn't a factor, schwartz chassis makes a aftermarket Gbody tube frame and suspension for road racing and autocross purposes.
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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lots of $ can do almost anything
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Originally Posted by N20zuki
If money isn't a factor, schwartz chassis makes a aftermarket Gbody tube frame and suspension for road racing and autocross purposes.
The fact Schwartz uses a triangulated 4 link in a chassis built specifically for cornering should steer you in the opposite directions of his products. To use that design on a clean sheet chassis is silly. It's no wonder his stuff gets smacked around by other pro-touring shops.
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Originally Posted by blak max
lots of $ can do almost anything
True statement. Key words being lots, and almost.

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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Had a C5Z and I can honestly tell you even my 01 Z28 with full suspension goodies would not at all keep up with it or it would be very difficult. Key is to have a strong foundation to start off with and a C5Z although not the best handling car was a very good start and very capable. Keeping up with if not better then a Ferrari requires the right car to start with, even still money and most important good driving skill.
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