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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 08:56 PM
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Hey guys, Im gonna be lowering my car on strano/koni set up. Ill be needing a panhard bar, but i dont know which ends should i be looking at. I know i need an adjustable bar. Its going to be a street car that will eventually have around 500hp. Thank you.
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Hey guys, Im gonna be lowering my car on strano/koni set up. Ill be needing a panhard bar, but i dont know which ends should i be looking at. I know i need an adjustable bar. Its going to be a street car that will eventually have around 500hp. Thank you.
Just go with poly ends for a street driver..
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 05:41 AM
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I have Roto joints on both ends on mine. No increase in vibration or noise.
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We have a few different options for bushings as well as adjustability.

Fell free to give me a call here at the shop for info and pricing.

http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...Path=7_138_106

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crazy bushings or heims or roto joints on the PHB aren't super critical since it doesn't need to articulate in more than 1 plane.
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by UMI Sales
We have a few different options for bushings as well as adjustability.

Fell free to give me a call here at the shop for info and pricing.

http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...Path=7_138_106

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Well what would be the reason to get one type of joint over ther other?
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We don't recommend rod ends on a street driven car. This one is our most popular and what we recommend for street applications.

http://www.foundersperformance.com/1...poly-bushings/
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Well what would be the reason to get one type of joint over ther other?
rotos or heims would provide additional articulation which is helpful for parts that have to move in more directions. For example the rear LCAs that have to move up and down as well as an arc to follow the movement of a solid axle.

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We don't recommend rod ends on a street driven car. This one is our most popular and what we recommend for street applications.

http://www.foundersperformance.com/1...poly-bushings/
I'm not opposed to that recommendation, but myself and many other people on here run tons of heim joints and don't experience any problems. Of course if you're worried that your modified 16 year old f-body might have a marginally more harsh ride they probably aren't for you.
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Originally Posted by vlad1995
Well what would be the reason to get one type of joint over ther other?
One would be to prevent binding, which was mentioned above and isn't super critical at both ends of a panhard bar.

Some components can use polyurethane bushings to achieve a better "street" ride.

For the most part our roto-joints will give you articulation like a rod end and the comfort of a poly bushing as far as ride quality goes.

A lot of it comes down to your application for the car.

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Originally Posted by blackandgold
rotos or heims would provide additional articulation which is helpful for parts that have to move in more directions. For example the rear LCAs that have to move up and down as well as an arc to follow the movement of a solid axle.



I'm not opposed to that recommendation, but myself and many other people on here run tons of heim joints and don't experience any problems. Of course if you're worried that your modified 16 year old f-body might have a marginally more harsh ride they probably aren't for you.
Im not worried about the harsher ride but as a college student every dollar counts. I dont mind saving up a little longer for a better part if its necessary. But on a panhard bar is all the extra articulation necessary?
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Originally Posted by vlad1995
Im not worried about the harsher ride but as a college student every dollar counts. I dont mind saving up a little longer for a better part if its necessary. But on a panhard bar is all the extra articulation necessary?
nope.
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Originally Posted by blackandgold
nope.
so just a on car adjustable with regular poly ends? And some bars dont say if they are on car adjustable, but say single or double, would the double the one I want?
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Originally Posted by vlad1995
so just a on car adjustable with regular poly ends? And some bars dont say if they are on car adjustable, but say single or double, would the double the one I want?
Honestly unless you change your ride height a bunch you won't need to mess with it once it's set, but the on-car adjustable would still be less of a headache IMO.
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Poly / Roto on car adjustable (single). Great choice and it is what I have!
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Rod ends are fine on street cars as long as you are a high quality rod end I would suggest teflon lined rod end if you went that route if not we offer poly, heim, heim, heim and poly, poly.
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Originally Posted by MidwestChassis
Rod ends are fine on street cars as long as you are a high quality rod end I would suggest teflon lined rod end if you went that route if not we offer poly, heim, heim, heim and poly, poly.
I cant seem to find the poly poly version on your website.
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Originally Posted by vlad1995
I cant seem to find the poly poly version on your website.
You have to call them to place an order. They don't have everyone of their items pictured online..
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Originally Posted by Burken01
You have to call them to place an order. They don't have everyone of their items pictured online..
Oh okay I wasnt aware of that. Thank you.
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If you are looking for something more aggressive we have this one.

http://www.foundersperformance.com/o...poly-bushings/

We designed the forged poly ends on this one to be the same size as a rod end. This allows our customers to purchase rod ends and the spacers so they can swap back and forth. We have customers that use the poly ends on the street and then when they go to a track day they swap in the rod ends.
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Originally Posted by Founders Performance
If you are looking for something more aggressive we have this one.

http://www.foundersperformance.com/o...poly-bushings/

We designed the forged poly ends on this one to be the same size as a rod end. This allows our customers to purchase rod ends and the spacers so they can swap back and forth. We have customers that use the poly ends on the street and then when they go to a track day they swap in the rod ends.
Does an "aggressive" panhard bar actually have any observable benefits?
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