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Old 09-09-2017, 11:11 AM
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I'm wanting to flush and change out my brake lines on my Camaro. Could anyone share their experience with different brands? I haven't bought any yet so i;m happen to order them soon. The only brand I know anything about is Russel, had them on my motorcycles and they were great. Also wanting to install a line lock,hehehe burn out
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This thread has a ton of great information for you: https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...p-leaking.html

If I were to do it all over again, I would have gone with Founders. Having support for the product would have saved me from having my car on jack stands for weeks and finding rear lines is near impossible.
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I've had them made up at a hydro shop to any measurement I needed. No they haven't been blessed by DOT. But the basic components are the same, there are only so many companies that make Stainless -4 line and with a liner they seem to last forever, I dont use the stainless wrapped rubber.. YMMV.
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Thanks, wssix99 I remember reading it a while ago but don't remember a lot of it, time to re-read
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just ordered t founders brand
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I have a full set of Russells that I havent had a chance to put on yet
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I put a set of the 'Earl's' braided lines on the '96 Z/28 that I used to own. Installed them around '98-'99, and they were still on the car, and doing fine, when I sold it, in 2015.
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I received my founder's brake lines, they look nice. I'm sure I won't have any problem installing um. Thanks everyone for your help. I'll be giving a "how I like them" review after they're installed
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Techna-Fit....$150.00....put them on in minutes. They're perfect after 8 years.

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Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead
I've had them made up at a hydro shop to any measurement I needed. No they haven't been blessed by DOT. But the basic components are the same, there are only so many companies that make Stainless -4 line and with a liner they seem to last forever, I dont use the stainless wrapped rubber.. YMMV.
Insurance will void you if its found after an accident. Slim chance, but that would suck......

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Originally Posted by LS6427
Insurance will void you if its found after an accident. Slim chance, but that would suck......

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Deep Thoughts: Would one even survive a brake-involved accident to even get that far?
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Deep Thoughts: Would one even survive a brake-involved accident to even get that far?
I believe that "LS6427" meant that if you were involved in a crash, especially where you were at fault, and caused property or physical damage to someone else, and the investigators found non DOT approved equipment, your insurance could be declared "null and void", and YOU'D be on the hook for any resultant lawsuits.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
I believe that "LS6427" meant that if you were involved in a crash, especially where you were at fault, and caused property or physical damage to someone else, and the investigators found non DOT approved equipment, your insurance could be declared "null and void", and YOU'D be on the hook for any resultant lawsuits.
Understood, my comment was just a random thought.

Less random - does anyone know off-hand what the difference would be between "DOT approved" hydraulics and something that might show up on a forklift?
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Understood, my comment was just a random thought.

Less random - does anyone know off-hand what the difference would be between "DOT approved" hydraulics and something that might show up on a forklift?
From a quality and/or performance standpoint, the hoses are most likely the same. But getting the "DOT approval", because of the highway intended usage, is the sticking point.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
From a quality and/or performance standpoint, the hoses are most likely the same. But getting the "DOT approval", because of the highway intended usage, is the sticking point.
There is a big difference between a DOT and non DOT hose. The biggest is a safety standard called the whip test. Inferior SS hose will not pass this brutal test. Brake hose is pressurized then whipped for 35 hours at 800 revs per minute for a total of 1,680,000 revolutions.

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Originally Posted by Founders Performance
There is a big difference between a DOT and non DOT hose. The biggest is a safety standard called the whip test. Inferior SS hose will not pass this brutal test. Brake hose is pressurized then whipped for 35 hours at 800 revs per minute for a total of 1,680,000 revolutions.
I think you're twisting my words, somewhat. Two hoses, for example, can be exactly the same, made from the same materials, assembled in the same fashion, etc. While one is "DOT certified", and one isn't. The actual difference? The manufacturer of the "DOT hose" submitted it for testing, which it passed, while the other hose wasn't submitted, therefore didn't pass, therefore wasn't certified.

I'm NOT saying that the non-certified part can be used when a "DOT certified" part is called for, I'm simply saying that they could be the exact same part.............
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Couldn't take it any more. This thread is now steel brake lines...
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Couldn't take it any more. This thread is now steel brake lines...




BUT.....it should be steel BRAIDED brake lines.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4




BUT.....it should be steel BRAIDED brake lines.
OMG T0tally m1ssed that 0ne. Fixed now.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
OMG T0tally m1ssed that 0ne. Fixed now.
You da' man!!!




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