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Old 11-23-2004, 12:29 AM
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looking to put some new sway bars on my car, anyone using suspension technologies sway bars? any suggestions?
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what do you plan on doing with the car? I have a wolfe single weld in, which is the best for drag racing Spohn makes a good one for road racing/budget.
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I have the Suspension Techniques bars. I really like them. The rear bar is a little bit big for most use and I'd probably run a 21mm GM rear bar with it or a 22mm Hollow bar from Sam Strano at stranoparts.com instead of buying the pair from suspension techniques.

This is a good way to go if you are interested in performance handling. If it's a drag car, this is possibly not the way to go.
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The car really likes a big front bar. Rear bars you should be careful you don't get too big, as it makes the car much more prone to oversteer. We are simply looking to stiffen the front (the driver feels and responds to the stiffer end), get the quicker reponse, less body roll, better camber curve and then balance it with the rear. We only want what we need on the back, not more.

Now, we have ST bars, Addco bars, Hotchkis bars, and our own Hollow bars. The Addco's are too small in front/a little big to a lot too big in the rear (they have two different rears). The ST bar is a great front bar, but is heavy and the rear bar is too big. The Hotchkis bars are very nice and light, but expensive and the rear bar is still too large IMHO, though better than a solid 25. Which is why we made our own bars. I wanted hollow front and rears in order save weight, but also wanted to make a set with the diameters I wanted instead of compromising. My bars are 35 hollow w/6mm tubing in front, 22mm/4mm tubing in the rear and cost significanly less than Hotchkis and not a ton more than ST's. They are more because hollow bars are more involved to bend, but you also save about 24 lbs. on a set vs. a set of ST's and over 20 vs. an ST front, 1LE 21mm solid rear.
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Yea, I guess I forgot to mention the 35mm hollow instead of the suspension techinques. It is much lighter (there's on in my garage right now).
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well i am looking for more better corning and less body roll, i used to do drag racing, but am more aiming for road/autocross racing. someone told me not to go with hollow bars, as thay don't do as good of a job as solid bars.
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Hollow bars are a good idea, since the core of a swaybar contributes very little to the stiffness of the bar, yet contributes significantly to it's weight. For example, going from a 32 mm hollow 1LE bar to a 32 mm solid BMR bar would be the equivalent of putting in a 33 mm hollow bar, but weighs about 15 lbs more. So you only loose about 1 mm in effective size by going hollow. My sugestion is to buy a Hotchkiss 36.5 mm hollow front bar. That way you have both the biggest/stiffest and lightest bar available.
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Unfortunately, it's very costly. And we used a thicker wall tubing to help make up some of that difference as well. Don't get me wrong, they are very nice bars, but also a bit costly.
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I have the ST-35mm in the front... great bar.
As for the rear, I have the 21mm from SLP
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Same as Eugenio_SS here. Good combo.
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I have the LGM front & rear sway's.
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Are the stock fr/rr sway bars hollow or solid? Just curious if there's any weight savings to be had besides the handling improvement.
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IO also have the ST 35 mm front and a 1LE 21 mm rear. A good combo, especially with SA Koni on both front and rear.
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what size would you want for all around EXCELENT performance? street/strip/corners (daily driver as well)



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