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Old 01-14-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default ok im fed up with the BMR adjustable panhard

i just adjusted the rear end and recentered it a few months ago and now its a quarter inch farther to the right than the left. is the bmr just a piece of **** or what? and if so what is a good one i can get that i can set and forget??
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Is this the one that has the "center adjuster"? And, are the jam nuts coming loose?
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it is center adjsuted and no they are not comming loose, thats the part i dont understand. and trust me i double and tripple check everything and then i shake it and roll it and move it and check it again
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Well, I'm not going to comment on the center adjust thing. Are you using Loc-tite on the jam nuts?
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why wont you comment? is it something bad or no? no i dont use loc tite, i dont need to those bastards are tight, yet it was a 1/8 inch over, and when i did it last time it was right on the money and like i said i checked a lot of times
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
why wont you comment? is it something bad or no? no i dont use loc tite, i dont need to those bastards are tight, yet it was a 1/8 inch over, and when i did it last time it was right on the money and like i said i checked a lot of times
I have no doubt that you're tightening the jam nuts appropriately and I'm not questioning it. However, this is an area prone to vibration, which, in turn, can easily cause a loosening of the jam nut(s). Applying some Loc-tite is a good idea.

Now, assuming that the nuts aren't loosening, what else could cause the PHR to change its length? There's really not much more to it than that from a physical standpoint. To experiment you could always re-install the stock PHR and see what happens (assuming that you have it still).

The reason I don't comment on the BMR design is because its been covered several times here and elsewhere. The adjustment in the middle of the bar is great for access, but its flawed from a design standpoint. Of course that's JMO...
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Originally Posted by Fulton 1
Of course that's JMO...
Mine, also ...
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Scary design
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As I'm reading this thread , the BMR banner is above it , sheer irony!
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what would be a better one. whats making me think here is how the hell can it get off if the bolts stay tight. plus it doesnt feel solid at all so i wanna get a better one. i know spohn makes 3 kinda but i dont know what one to get
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Just to check to see if it's coming loose take a marker or finger nail polish and mark a line across the jam nut's and thread's and check it later to see if they have moved.
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Ok. When you accelerate, the torque will rotate the axle slightly. This is a tremendous amount of energy and will very likley be able to rotate the center adjuster due to the load. I suspect that it's slowly screwing the adjuster in or out (but the jam nut is "stuck" against the phb body to where it still feels tight) and the length is changing. Just a guess, but probably a good one.
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Originally Posted by smokin' joe 00 ss
Just to check to see if it's coming loose take a marker or finger nail polish and mark a line across the jam nut's and thread's and check it later to see if they have moved.

Actually, paint a line down the bar, jam nut, adjuster, nut and bar and see if any of it moves, that will tell you for sure.
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So what's a good designed, reliable adjustable PHR then guys? Because I'm not too far from ordering some suspension/chassis parts and a lot on my list are from BMR.
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I have a wolfe and I love it. All of their suspension is hardcore/bad *** stuff. Did you try red locktite?
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no im not gonna either im gonna get a new one. who sells wolfe stuff and should i get a single end link adjustable one or double end adjustable? im lookin at spohns stuff, it seems well engineered, from what i have read
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why would you go and buy new one before finding out what the "REAL" problem is? if you go and buy a spohn or wolf panhard bar and you get the same result does it mean their parts are the problem?.....my.02
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Originally Posted by TransAm52804
So what's a good designed, reliable adjustable PHR then guys? Because I'm not too far from ordering some suspension/chassis parts and a lot on my list are from BMR.
With regard to a PHR, an elegant design would be one that uses adjustment at the ends of the bar instead of the middle, uses high quality rod ends/adjusters, and weighs as little as possible while having enough strength to do the job. If it were me I'd look at LG or trackbird's aluminum bar - I don't see where you could go wrong with either.
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ok thanks, well im just fed up in general with BMR and i dont want the center adjustable any more, it just feels way too flimsy. thats the reason i want a new one not so much it getting thrown off
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Ok I read all of this and I'm thinking to myself. Why did I buy a BMR? Oh yeah because it was cheap... I still haven't put it on but I was going to do it when I lowered the car. Is there anyone that runs the BMR PHB and doesn't have problems?


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