break pads
break pads its time to get new pads and i was wondering what type should i get and how hard are they to install. i have never touched them myself and have no clue what to do?? any input is appreciated. thanks guys - matt
Most people will say that all around the Hawk pads are the best to get, I dont know which ones you'll want based on your driving style, but as for the install...easy as pie... Directions
Originally Posted by CATCH ME
how do u guys think bout EBC pads and rotors??
I am in no way an expert, this is just the way I would go.
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I have Brembo OEM blanks (rotors) and Hawk HPS Pads and I like them. I got them from TireRack (a sponsor).
BTW, brakes not breaks.
Here is some more info on rotors and pads:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/262940-replacing-rotors-what-get.html
(Just dont do what absolut_speed said, he was joking.)
BTW, brakes not breaks.
Here is some more info on rotors and pads:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/262940-replacing-rotors-what-get.html
(Just dont do what absolut_speed said, he was joking.)
Originally Posted by CATCH ME
how much do the brembo rotors run $$$$
wow i didnt even realize that i spelled brakes wrong (DUH!)
wow i didnt even realize that i spelled brakes wrong (DUH!)
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The EBC pads have decent stopping power however no one likes green dust on their wheels.. (not that black is any better)... Its kind of line the whole brujaja with the Hawk Blues or Pagid Oranges with the brake dust getting baked onto the wheel in that color. Stick with the Hawk HPC's for regular driving or HPS if you need more power.. I have both in stock along with Powerslot or Stoptech rotors.
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Originally Posted by CATCH ME
how much do the brembo rotors run $$$$
HAWK HPS PADS FRONT (AXLE SET): $76.00
HAWK HPS PADS REAR (AXLE SET): $67.00
BREMBO REPLACEMENT ROTOR FRONT (EACH): $64.00
BREMBO REPLACEMENT ROTOR REAR (EACH): $77.00
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TOTAL: $425.00 + SHIPPING
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PADS ALONE: $143.00
ROTORS ALONE: $282.00
I just got these prices off TireRack just now.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Can anyone describe how the HPS pads are stronger than the stock ones in both cold and warmed up conditions?
-- How they are stronger...that would be an in-depth discussion on the material of the pads.
--How much stronger are they... a small but noticeable improvement over stock.
Has anyone discussed the differences in feel between stock and aftermarket pads listing things such as dust, noise, cold performance, hot performance etc...?
I'm trying to gry an idea of how my Williams S2 pads rank with some of the more common pads.
I'm trying to gry an idea of how my Williams S2 pads rank with some of the more common pads.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Has anyone discussed the differences in feel between stock and aftermarket pads listing things such as dust, noise, cold performance, hot performance etc...?
I'm trying to gry an idea of how my Williams S2 pads rank with some of the more common pads.
I'm trying to gry an idea of how my Williams S2 pads rank with some of the more common pads.
Originally Posted by VIP1
I havent seen anything quantatative.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....49&postcount=4
Kevin, I actually posted on that thread 11-9-04. 
It was good to re-read it though.
I think I'll call up Larry over at Carbotech.
CATCH ME, I will tell you that the brake service is pretty easy. You'll need a couple of wrenches, 15mm, 16mm, 13mm I think. To unbolt the calipers you have to use the 16mm to hold the caliper pin and then undo the bolts that go inside of it. You want to pull out the pins and regrease them with some synthetic brake lube. They sell it at the autoparts store in ketchup sized packs. The pads just fall out. When you put everything back together, you will need to add locktite to the caliper pin bolts as they only need 17lbs or so of torque. Use some wire clothes hangers to hold the calipers up and out of the way. Letting them hang by the lines will lead to them cracking or being damaged.
It was good to re-read it though.I think I'll call up Larry over at Carbotech.
CATCH ME, I will tell you that the brake service is pretty easy. You'll need a couple of wrenches, 15mm, 16mm, 13mm I think. To unbolt the calipers you have to use the 16mm to hold the caliper pin and then undo the bolts that go inside of it. You want to pull out the pins and regrease them with some synthetic brake lube. They sell it at the autoparts store in ketchup sized packs. The pads just fall out. When you put everything back together, you will need to add locktite to the caliper pin bolts as they only need 17lbs or so of torque. Use some wire clothes hangers to hold the calipers up and out of the way. Letting them hang by the lines will lead to them cracking or being damaged.
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Originally Posted by trackbird
Originally Posted by VIP1
I've read those...lots of info, but not much is actually quantatative. I'm not knocking any of it, its just not actually back-to-back scientifoc testing of distance/repeatablility/pedal effort/etc.
I do remember some chatter on a Canadian Autocross forum about them planning a big brake pad comparison. I'll have to look and see if they did it.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
To get the scientific stuff you'd have to test the pads on a brake dyno in a lab, That's good and all, but how they perform in the real world cand be different than the lab.
What I have works well enough for me, so I dont really need the info, but it would be nice to know. You asked about comparisons and I just stated that I hadn't seen anything quantative.
Originally Posted by JasonWW
I'm just relying on people like trackbird and other folks who have tried a variety of pad/rotor combo's on an LS1 to give comparisons.
Originally Posted by JasonWW
I do remember some chatter on a Canadian Autocross forum about them planning a big brake pad comparison. I'll have to look and see if they did it.
PS. I hope the thread starter (CATCH ME) got the info he/she was looking for.