its time to get new pads and i was wondering what type should i get and how hard are they to install. i have never touched them myself and have no clue what to do?? any input is appreciated. thanks guys - matt

 

Most people will say that all around the Hawk pads are the best to get, I dont know which ones you'll want based on your driving style, but as for the install...easy as pie... Directions

 

how do u guys think bout EBC pads and rotors??

 

Ive heard good things about their pads but I still think the Brembos are all the rotor that I need. The cost difference is too much for marginal or maybe no improvements over the Brembos.

I am in no way an expert, this is just the way I would go.

 

I have Brembo OEM blanks (rotors) and Hawk HPS Pads and I like them. I got them from TireRack (a sponsor).

BTW, brakes not breaks.

Here is some more info on rotors and pads:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/262940-replacing-rotors-what-get.html
(Just dont do what absolut_speed said, he was joking.)

 

how much do the brembo rotors run $$$$

wow i didnt even realize that i spelled brakes wrong (DUH!)

 

You just missed a GP on the Brembo cross drilled/slotted rotors, front and rear for $318 shipped to your door. You can check the GP section, still may cut you a deal, IRotors is the sponsor.

 

The EBC pads have decent stopping power however no one likes green dust on their wheels.. (not that black is any better)... Its kind of line the whole brujaja with the Hawk Blues or Pagid Oranges with the brake dust getting baked onto the wheel in that color. Stick with the Hawk HPC's for regular driving or HPS if you need more power.. I have both in stock along with Powerslot or Stoptech rotors.

 

http://www.tirerack.com/

HAWK HPS PADS FRONT (AXLE SET): $76.00
HAWK HPS PADS REAR (AXLE SET): $67.00
BREMBO REPLACEMENT ROTOR FRONT (EACH): $64.00
BREMBO REPLACEMENT ROTOR REAR (EACH): $77.00
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TOTAL: $425.00 + SHIPPING

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PADS ALONE: $143.00
ROTORS ALONE: $282.00

I just got these prices off TireRack just now.

 

thanks guys that helps alot

 

Can anyone describe how the HPS pads are stronger than the stock ones in both cold and warmed up conditions?

 

How they are stronger or how much stronger are they?

-- How they are stronger...that would be an in-depth discussion on the material of the pads.

--How much stronger are they... a small but noticeable improvement over stock.

 

Has anyone discussed the differences in feel between stock and aftermarket pads listing things such as dust, noise, cold performance, hot performance etc...?

I'm trying to gry an idea of how my Williams S2 pads rank with some of the more common pads.

 

I havent seen anything quantatative.

 

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...&highlight=gti

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....49&postcount=4

 

Kevin, I actually posted on that thread 11-9-04. It was good to re-read it though.

I think I'll call up Larry over at Carbotech.

CATCH ME, I will tell you that the brake service is pretty easy. You'll need a couple of wrenches, 15mm, 16mm, 13mm I think. To unbolt the calipers you have to use the 16mm to hold the caliper pin and then undo the bolts that go inside of it. You want to pull out the pins and regrease them with some synthetic brake lube. They sell it at the autoparts store in ketchup sized packs. The pads just fall out. When you put everything back together, you will need to add locktite to the caliper pin bolts as they only need 17lbs or so of torque. Use some wire clothes hangers to hold the calipers up and out of the way. Letting them hang by the lines will lead to them cracking or being damaged.

 

Calling Larry is always a good idea. You never forget "the Larry experience".

 

I've read those...lots of info, but not much is actually quantatative. I'm not knocking any of it, its just not actually back-to-back scientifoc testing of distance/repeatablility/pedal effort/etc.

 

To get the scientific stuff you'd have to test the pads on a brake dyno in a lab, That's good and all, but how they perform in the real world cand be different than the lab. So I don't think there will ever be a good quantatative study done on them. I'm just relying on people like trackbird and other folks who have tried a variety of pad/rotor combo's on an LS1 to give comparisons.

I do remember some chatter on a Canadian Autocross forum about them planning a big brake pad comparison. I'll have to look and see if they did it.

 

I Agree.
What I have works well enough for me, so I dont really need the info, but it would be nice to know. You asked about comparisons and I just stated that I hadn't seen anything quantative.

Yea, trackbird and mitchntx have a lot of experience and know their stuff.

Let me know if you find anything.



PS. I hope the thread starter (CATCH ME) got the info he/she was looking for.