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Old 07-07-2005, 01:02 AM
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I was trying to decide between the spohn 32mm solid front sway bar and the strano 35mm hollow front sway bar. I'm putting on eibach kit with the koni sa shocks with the following suspension upgrades: Chrome moly lower control arms, lca relocation brackets, adj. panhard rod w/ poly bushings, a non adj. torque arm and a shock tower brace. Thanks for your opinions.
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Does a 35mm fit? Ive got a 36mm hollow bar if your interested, duno if thatll fit.
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What is the 36 designed for?
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Hotchkiss makes a 36mm and Stranno makes a 35mm. Both high quality bars. My choice would be one of thoes two.
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The 35 is a strano bar. I've never heard of a 36 before now.
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Without question, put the biggest bar you can in the front. There is no drawbacks to it at all. It helps your car initiate a turn quicker. Instead of the front flexing to the opposite direction for a fraction of a second before turning, it just turns instead
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awesome, thanks for you opinions guys, didn't know if solid or hollow made a difference in strength
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i think its just heavier if its solid
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weight but solid is also stiffer. some consider 36mm hollow to be bout a 32mm solid, from what ive heard. ANyone able to clarify?
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Anybody? Sam would be great to hear from
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Someone, probably strano, posted the stifness calculation between a hollow and solid bar. I dont remember how much, but the solid is only marginally stiffer and much heavier.
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You dont loose much stiffness from a solid bar v.s. hollow.
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What sway bar setup is everybody else using?? For a daily driver
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Originally Posted by stang killer
Hotchkiss makes a 36mm and Stranno makes a 35mm. Both high quality bars. My choice would be one of thoes two.

Yea I don't think there's any drawbacks to going larger, except weight transfer to the rear if your drag racing, and big deal if it cuts off a tenth of your quarter mile, you can always remove it before your going to the track.
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Originally Posted by JAvenger007
weight but solid is also stiffer. some consider 36mm hollow to be bout a 32mm solid, from what ive heard. ANyone able to clarify?
Solid is technically stiffer. But very little, and now where near a 35 or 36 hollow = a 32 solid. That's propaganda from the folks who make hollow 32's (actually who buy them from Addco, whom I also carry) to sell you on why you should have their bar vs. a 1LE/SS/WS6 bar.

Bars work by twisting, that motion by nature moves the outer portion of the bar much more than the inner part (which is the part "missing" on a hollow bar). The OD is so important that the stiffness of a bar is figured by it's OD to the 4th power. Just 1mm in OD makes a big difference. Going from 32 to 35 is quite huge.
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So what do you recommend??
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Considering I took the effort to build a reasonably priced hollow 35, I have to say that's what I recommend. We carry solid 32's and solid 35's, and Hotchkis bars too. But I was fed up with the games. All the kits are messed up in that the ones that have a good sized front (around 35) all had too large a rear (about 25mm). Addco has a 22mm rear, which is good sized in itself but their front @ 32 is too small as a package. So for a long time I bought ST's front, Addco's 22mm rear and sold them as a kit. But they are both solid (and a solid 35 is about 13-14 lbs. more than a 35 hollow), and we incurred a lot of shipping too.

In the end I decided that if nobody was going to do what the car needed IMO, I would and if I was going through the trouble I would have hollow bars at both ends too to save weight.

You can get the bars as a set or for each end. You can't go wrong with a big front bar unless you drag race all the time. But even then, you can unhook the bar for that and use it on the street.....
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Sent you an email Sam, mostly concerning a 36/24 combo (hollow front). would 24 be too big for the rear? 3rd gens had that combo so i got some to try but realized they might not fit. And do you sell bushings? (sorry to seem like a hijack, tryin to stay on topic)
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24 is too large IMO on the rear for more all situations, and I think I saw where you said you had a 3rd gen 36 bar.... It won't fit the 4th gen. Rears will interchange, fronts will not.
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darn, so both bars are pretty much useless. Thanks for the help. Sounds like 35mm hollow/22 solid is the best combo anyways.


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