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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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What shocks would you guys recommend for my 02 TA.
I love drag racing (Twice a week!) but dont want to ruin my performance on the winding roads.
I like the stock Height & would like to retain stock springs. Right now I have SFC's, UMI Full length Torque arm, Panhard, LCA's, & Relo Bracket set in the middle with stock Decarbons. I had allot of wheel hop but the relo's & torque arm seemed to help allot but have not been to the track yet.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Koni's, Koni's, Koni's..............you can set the front spring perch to the lower setting and re-use your stock springs........on the rear I replaced the spring retainer with 5/8" heater hose.......car sits about 1/2" to 3/4" lower. Or you can run stock ride height..........rides like a caddy.........handles like a corvette...........almost.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Guess mondi2002 didn't like the fact that I asked him to call, because that is exactly the same PM I got from him yesterday.

I told him I can't and won't recommend a shock with what little I know, and nothing has changed. But I guess an internet recommendation is what he wants, hence the carbon copy of the PM I got.....

Let me try it a different way: Based on what I see, Bilstein HD's, SLP Bilstein, Revalved Bilsteins, and multiple sets of Koni's are all possibilities. Which is best is what I need to discuss. If you could care less about getting what suits the need, then just buy whatever. If you want it done properly, with thought and reasoning, you still need to call.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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honestly though Sam......you can't go wrong with the Koni's........with all the money some of these guys spend on power adders........and then nickle & dime on the shocks. My thought is do it once and be completely satisfied. My car now handles and drives the way it should have from the factory..........

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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Sam, I have been really busy today and was thinking about it,
but it is not something I am going to do tomarrow.
I just wanted to get an idea. The thought of saving money is right up
my alley because things add up fast.
I will give you a call when I am ready to buy.
Thanks.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Qa1's here and loving them. Highly reccomend them. You just have to get it set up properly for your application.
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Old Apr 25, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Do the Konis allow height adjustment front and back? Are they basically coil overs?
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 01:28 AM
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The ones that are frequently mentioned in this forum are not coil-overs, and IMHO for good reason. The front Koni SA's are the ones that have two spring perch height positions in the front, which the lower one can only be used with the stock springs. Ground Controls coil-over sleeves were a popular suggestion around here (even I had them for a short time when I ran my Koni DA's), however in general, Coil-overs are a bad idea for the DD who needs improvement over their stock system.

Along with finite adjustibility comes other headaches as well, which can include more expense, and I simply won't get too much into that now in order not to inadvertantly hijack the thread. Simply put, if you're daily driving and want some better performance, start with a quality shock. If it's adjustibility that you want, get Koni SA's, since they're quite proven to be a quality shock.
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I asked because I am considering Konis and lowering my car. I don't want to lower just the front. To me getting adjustable shocks is a waste if I can't control the height.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Get QA1 for what do want. "Bilstein HD's, SLP Bilstein, Revalved Bilsteins, and multiple sets of Koni's" all have to much rate for what you want. With QA1 the handling on full hard is not to bad. They are drag shocks.

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I love my ground control with Konis. Get the koni da from SLP and the ground control stuff from WS6store --->
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Mondi
Get QA1 for what do want. "Bilstein HD's, SLP Bilstein, Revalved Bilsteins, and multiple sets of Koni's" all have to much rate for what you want. With QA1 the handling on full hard is not to bad. They are drag shocks.

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I love my ground control with Konis. Get the koni da from SLP and the ground control stuff from WS6store --->
Yeah, right........

There are so many things wrong with that statement I can't even start to argue. But Yellow and I have been through this before, and it doesn't stop him from making these kinds of recommendations, so I'll refrain from starting it all again.

I wish *I* was so all knowing that I could recommend stuff to folks I've never met, who give me 3 lines of information.
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Originally Posted by Dom
I asked because I am considering Konis and lowering my car. I don't want to lower just the front. To me getting adjustable shocks is a waste if I can't control the height.
Not as much as people think. Controlling the height is the least of one's worries with adjustble spring perches. Do you know their most effective purpose? Also, do you know what equipment it takes to do this, and how much it would cost to purchase it, or even rent it? Realistically, what will the vehicle be doing? Believe it or not, looks aren't always a determinant of "improved performance."

Also, from what many will recommend for a Koni DA, how often does the unsprung weight needed to be accounted for and what's their exact differences between their settings? Is anyone aware of the consequences of too high or too low of a setting on compression?

I ask these questions in order to set people straight on what they're getting so they really are aware of what these items are for because a lot of their features go to waste, usually spending twice the money while only gaining bragging rights and not improving performance (probably worsening it), and before anyone starts the with "SOTP feel only" testimony, you need at least an AX course to realy evaluate an improvement.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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I have QA1 single adj. on my ride. If you can afford them get the double adj. QA1s.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Koni SA's, factory springs set to the lower perch in the front, hose mod in the rear. 3/4" lower than factory.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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OK, I started this thread and its getting a little out of hand lol
I can care less about looks. I want performance.
Most people want to lower so I could not find any threads for keeping
the stock ride height which will (I hope) give me the best performance
for street/strip use. (Correct me if I am wrong)
I mean the first day I had my headers on I hit going up
my parents drive way. I forgot I would have less clearence
& took it a little to fast. I cant imagine how it would be if lowered.
I almost went and bought these competition drag shocks for
the back only to help with my wheel hop
After doing all of the other mods besides shocks the wheel hop
is better but it feels like I did shocks (allot stiffer ride)
and in the twisties the rear seem to kick out more.
Thanks for all the Suggestions! Keep um comming!
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mondi2002
OK, I started this thread and its getting a little out of hand lol
I can care less about looks. I want performance.
Most people want to lower so I could not find any threads for keeping
the stock ride height which will (I hope) give me the best performance
for street/strip use. (Correct me if I am wrong)
I mean the first day I had my headers on I hit going up
my parents drive way. I forgot I would have less clearence
& took it a little to fast. I cant imagine how it would be if lowered.
I almost went and bought these competition drag shocks for
the back only to help with my wheel hop
After doing all of the other mods besides shocks the wheel hop
is better but it feels like I did shocks (allot stiffer ride)
and in the twisties the rear seem to kick out more.
Thanks for all the Suggestions! Keep um comming!
Koni's...............money isn't a huge issue by looking at your sig. Do it once and be happy. Get the Koni SA's and leave it at the stock ride height. You won't be disappointed.

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I agree with doing it once. As for the money....the procharger is pushing me to the
limit. I already put a deposit down on it to lock in to the lower price.
I am skipping getting a new rear, clutch, shocks, cam, lifters, springs.
I am getting frustrated with all the supporting mods so am working ***
backwards this time. Will try take it easy and keep it together in the meantime.
Dynoed at 341RWHP now. I am going with the D1SC 8 rib setup
racetronix fuel pump pullied at 5-8psi boost with 60lb injectors and a conservitive tune.
My goal is 400-450RWHP.
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