BlackWS6LS1

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Ok, just installed the SLP Line Lock and in doesn't lock. I installed it properly to start off with, the wires portion half of the solenoid is the side of the solenoid that goes to the ABS Controller side. Although the solenoid doesn't look the same as the instructions, plus the side that was instructed to put toward the master cylinder is labeled brake...

Then I bled the right rear, left rear, right front, and last the left front. Then I went out I think the brakes feel the same before I started. I go and press and the brakes activate the switch and release the pedal. It barely has enough pressure to hold me on an incline, let alone lock the front tires. Let me know if I didn't bleed the brakes correctly, or if I did something wrong.

Tom

BlackWS6LS1

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TTT

Bob2of3

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With everything off can you hear the line lok activate? You should only have to bleed the fronts and when I did mine I had to do it a couple times to get all the air out, so make sure the solenoid is working then bleed the brakes again and re-test

Good luck and be careful until you get it sorted out

LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Killer '01 SS

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There are at least 4 of us on the SLP Forum that have had this problem. The solution is to install the solenoid UPSIDE-DOWN from what the instructions say. In other words, the wires should be on the TOP, NOT the bottom. This will solve your problem.

Incidentally, I was (as far as I can tell) the first person with this problem, and I have made SLP aware of it. I'm surprised that they haven't changed the instructions yet. Good luck!

BlackWS6LS1

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Thanks Killer....

That took care of it...

Tom

NewZ

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Killer '01 SS:
<strong>I'm surprised that they haven't changed the instructions yet. Good luck!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I, however, am not. In my experience SLP has been one of the WORST companies to shop with. They have poor product with even worse customer support. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

I personally have had them screw up a rim and header bolt order, as well as assisted a friend with his LT1 headers installation.

Each and every time i've attempted to get some sort of information/support from SLP they've basically told me to go f myself. <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />

Oh, yeah, here's a neat trick: Go over to www.slpeng.com and try to post your problem there. Just wait and see how fast your post gets locked/deleted. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I've actually had them lock a post with, "This is not a forum for complaints." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Can you believe that crap? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

I'm mad for you.. Why the hell should you have to install a product upside down? Why cant' they, just this once, sell a product as advertised?

I've said it before and i'll say it again...

Although i'm sorry to see the f body go, i'm glad it's going to hurt a company like SLP as badly as it is.. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

****, they're already jumping on the Ford gravy train.. How long before you see an SLP Mustang?

Can you say Mustang SS? <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />

Sorry for the rant guys. they've really done me wrong...

Good luck bro,
Alan

<small>[ April 30, 2002, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: NewZ ]</small>

horsepower

The problem we are seeing most is guys bleeding the brakes ONLY at the calipers. This can cause a lot of air to get trapped (all the air in the new lines and solenoid gets pumped into the ABS/TCS module).

The best thing to do is to bleed at the master cylinder brake line to solenoid joint, then bleed at solenoid to ABS/TCS brake line joint, then bleed at the ABS/TCS brake line to ABS/TCS module joint, THEN bleed the passenger side front, then bleed the driver side front.

As a matter of fact, the solenoid WILL function they way the instructions state, OR up-side-down from that. The only problem with installing it up-side-down is you will probably have to 'tap' the brakes once you turn off the solenoid to get it to release. Most prefer to have the solenoid automatically release when the power is flipped off.

BTW - if you did actually have had a problem with SLP, I am sorry about that. However, if you get on the Internet and BLAST us, you are not helping anyone (including yourself!). CALL SLP, and talk to your salesman - I am sure they will help you out.

- Brian

Pro Stock John

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NewZ take 'er easy there. This thread is about a linelock install.

Phil99TA

why isn't the proper bleeding sequence a part of the instructions?

horsepower

When we say 'bleed the system', that means bleed it like I described. It depends on how 'seasoned / experienced' the installer is (some guys that are a little less experienced may be at a loss here).

However, we will revise instructions and better detail a few things. Remember this product is fresh, we always continue to take customer feedback/suggestions and implement them to make things better for all of us.

-brian

Killer '01 SS

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Thanks for replying, Brian. As a side note, I'm the guy that tried bleeding the brakes (yes, at the calipers only) myself, then paid a dealership $80+ to bleed them, THEN when the line lock STILL wouldn't hold my car, I turned the solenoid upside-down, bled the brakes myself again, and everything worked. So it wasn't just my inexperience... Even my dealer couldn't get all the air out (if that's what the problem was). Seems like installing the unit "upside down" is solving the problem for most of the people on this board and the SLP board though. And mine, at least, DOES disengage when I flip the switch. I don't have to tap the brake pedal. Just filling you in on my experiences. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Oh, and folks, Brian was VERY helpful (even replying to my e-mail to him on a Sunday afternoon) when I was trying to get the Line Lock to work correctly by myself. Big thumbs up to SLP customer service from me, I don't care what anybody else says. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

horsepower

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Killer '01 SS:
<strong>Thanks for replying, Brian. As a side note, I'm the guy that tried bleeding the brakes (yes, at the calipers only) myself, then paid a dealership $80+ to bleed them, THEN when the line lock STILL wouldn't hold my car, I turned the solenoid upside-down, bled the brakes myself again, and everything worked. So it wasn't just my inexperience... Even my dealer couldn't get all the air out (if that's what the problem was). Seems like installing the unit "upside down" is solving the problem for most of the people on this board and the SLP board though. And mine, at least, DOES disengage when I flip the switch. I don't have to tap the brake pedal. Just filling you in on my experiences. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Oh, and folks, Brian was VERY helpful (even replying to my e-mail to him on a Sunday afternoon) when I was trying to get the Line Lock to work correctly by myself. Big thumbs up to SLP customer service from me, I don't care what anybody else says. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for the response - I think the 'side-effect' per say, from removing and installing up-side-down is that you are in effect, bleeding the system at each of those joint. The orientation of the unit is not critically important.

- Brian

White_Hawk

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by horsepower:
<strong>However, we will revise instructions and better detail a few things. Remember this product is fresh, we always continue to take customer feedback/suggestions and implement them to make things better for all of us.

-brian</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That sounds great! I just happen to have one of these awaiting installation in my garage. Do you think I could get an updated copy of the instructions? Could you post a link here?

Thanks for the info

-Geoff

horsepower

Here is a link to the instructions, notice the directions AND photo for power wire. The last instruction state the brakes MUST be bleed. Come on people, you need to know to bleed your brakes once you have removed a line!

http://www.slpnj.com/inst/25000.pdf

Superman

If someone has doubts weather the brakes need to be bled after a Line Lock install I don`t think they should be doing it in the first place <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

BTW, the instructions for a Meziere electric water pump state " black to 12V+ and green to ground"
So I guess it`s ok for it to run 24/7.. boy I~m gonna need alot of new batteries <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

blazinredls1

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Killer '01 SS:
<strong>There are at least 4 of us on the SLP Forum that have had this problem. The solution is to install the solenoid UPSIDE-DOWN from what the instructions say. In other words, the wires should be on the TOP, NOT the bottom. This will solve your problem.

Incidentally, I was (as far as I can tell) the first person with this problem, and I have made SLP aware of it. I'm surprised that they haven't changed the instructions yet. Good luck!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">\
This is excalty what happened with me.. We bled the brakes atleast four or five times, maybe more, i called slp and they are morons, plain out morons...
I felt like a complete moron when i switched it upside down and it worked, thats the last thing i could figure out trying to get it to work...

Sloppy Lousy Products....

<small>[ May 09, 2002, 11:42 PM: Message edited by: blazinredls1 ]</small>

J Rod

The instructions were lousy, mine didn't even say a word about hooking up the power wire from the solenoid not to mention bleeding the brakes. I am happy with the product though, it works great. I just bled the brakes at the front calipers and that worked fine.

Superman

Last two times i installed a line lock on my car (97 ws-6 & current car) all I did was to pump all the air out of the solenoid and lines FIRST then with the line going to the ABS module not tightened all the way gave it one more small pump of the brakes and then tighten it all the way.
This way the air in the solenoid and lines doesn`t get pushed thru the entire brake system once everything is connencted.

I never took a wheel off or had to touch a caliper. This was not on a SLP unit but the idea is the same.

my .02

<small>[ May 09, 2002, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Dan99Hawk ]</small>

onfire

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Looks like this one has been aired out enough....locking it down before "emotions" take over.