G2 suspension
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G2 suspension I here these are the best. Is this true? If so why.
Are all of there parts good choice or for example.... is everything great but maybe someone elses sway bars are better or strut tower brace, etc.
thanx
Are all of there parts good choice or for example.... is everything great but maybe someone elses sway bars are better or strut tower brace, etc.
thanx
Re: G2 suspension Of course our parts are the best! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> All of our G2 suspension parts are top-quality and even shed some weight from the stock parts in some cases. For instance, our torque arm is 5 lbs. lighter than stock, yet it is much stronger than the stock one. We've never had a torque arm come back to us for breaking, bending, etc. We also offer lightweight lower control arms and panhard rod that will shed 10 lbs. off of the car over the stock stuff. We're currently have a sale on all of our suspension and chassis bracing parts. It's 15% off for the month of August. Whether you're setting the car up for road racing or drag racing, we can help you out.
Trevor - LGM
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Re: G2 suspension </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by muscratmauler:
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Is this true? If so why.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why are they the best? Because of Lou Gigliotti.
These parts are engineered, designed and best of all PROVEN on a race track, not on someone's drawing board where reverse engineering is the only R&D done.
LG won 3 World Challenge Championships on these parts. You just can't get a better R&D program than that.
As far as the lightweight components Trevor is describing, the designs are used on LGMs Grand AM C5, the wne that won the Paul Revere 250 at Daytona about a month ago. The same technology is used. Again, what a proving ground.
And, LGM's suspension parts work well as a package. When I began moving my car from street to track, I thought an LCA was an LCA and a PHB was a PHB. WRONG! All those components MUST work as a package or unit to give you the results you want.
Want to guage what users think of these parts?
Go to the Classifieds section of this site, LS1.com and Z28.com and do a search on G2 parts for sale. Do the same on Spohn, GW or Hotchkiss. There's a reason why people don't resell these parts.
Finally, when was the last time you saw John Hotchkiss, Billy Boat (B&B), Brett Rockey (BMR), Steve Spohn or Mr. West (Global West) post up in here?
<small>[ August 18, 2002, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: mitchntx ]</small>
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Is this true? If so why.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why are they the best? Because of Lou Gigliotti.
These parts are engineered, designed and best of all PROVEN on a race track, not on someone's drawing board where reverse engineering is the only R&D done.
LG won 3 World Challenge Championships on these parts. You just can't get a better R&D program than that.
As far as the lightweight components Trevor is describing, the designs are used on LGMs Grand AM C5, the wne that won the Paul Revere 250 at Daytona about a month ago. The same technology is used. Again, what a proving ground.
And, LGM's suspension parts work well as a package. When I began moving my car from street to track, I thought an LCA was an LCA and a PHB was a PHB. WRONG! All those components MUST work as a package or unit to give you the results you want.
Want to guage what users think of these parts?
Go to the Classifieds section of this site, LS1.com and Z28.com and do a search on G2 parts for sale. Do the same on Spohn, GW or Hotchkiss. There's a reason why people don't resell these parts.
Finally, when was the last time you saw John Hotchkiss, Billy Boat (B&B), Brett Rockey (BMR), Steve Spohn or Mr. West (Global West) post up in here?
<small>[ August 18, 2002, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: mitchntx ]</small>
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Re: G2 suspension One thing I don't understand is, other than the ends, how much difference can there be between one PHR / lower control arms / torque arm from one co. to another other than maybe wall thickness?
thanx
thanx
Re: G2 suspension Engineering ...
I've seen some adjustable LCAs that had the threads on each end turn the same way so that the rod would spin if a jam nut came loose, in effect lengthening the rod. I've owned a PHB that did just that.
When you get down to the tiny details, it's what will seperate the vendors from the racers. Vendors typically don't bolt their own stuff on a car and go 200mph down the front straight at Daytona, win multiple World Challenge Championships or have there own R&D/fab shop.
Vendors who don't race just don't get it.
I've seen some adjustable LCAs that had the threads on each end turn the same way so that the rod would spin if a jam nut came loose, in effect lengthening the rod. I've owned a PHB that did just that.
When you get down to the tiny details, it's what will seperate the vendors from the racers. Vendors typically don't bolt their own stuff on a car and go 200mph down the front straight at Daytona, win multiple World Challenge Championships or have there own R&D/fab shop.
Vendors who don't race just don't get it.
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Re: G2 suspension Hey thanks a lot MITCH, your posts along with never hearing anything negative about their products helped me to decide.
I already have G2 subframe, v-braces and safety loop.
I ordered: engine brace, torque arm, 2-way adjustable PHR, adjustable lower control arms, adj. rear control arm brackets, and sway bars.
I have to wait till they get more G2 springs, then I will order those along with the HAL 12-way shocks.
I think that's all I can do for chassie and suspension.
I'm looking for: stable high speed driving (car really sways around at high speeds), better cornering, and launching. hopefully this will do it.
Oh ye, how will noise, vibrations, feel change?
THANX AGAIN
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I already have G2 subframe, v-braces and safety loop.
I ordered: engine brace, torque arm, 2-way adjustable PHR, adjustable lower control arms, adj. rear control arm brackets, and sway bars.
I have to wait till they get more G2 springs, then I will order those along with the HAL 12-way shocks.
I think that's all I can do for chassie and suspension.
I'm looking for: stable high speed driving (car really sways around at high speeds), better cornering, and launching. hopefully this will do it.
Oh ye, how will noise, vibrations, feel change?
THANX AGAIN
MAULER <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" />
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Re: G2 suspension </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by muscratmauler:
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how will noise, vibrations, feel change?
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good choice ...
Noise will increase, ride will be stiffer and you should feel glued to the road.
Throw in a performance alignment
max positive caster
.5 negative camber
1/16" toe in
zero toe if you are good
1/16" toe out if you are an animal
You will definitely feel that difference.
Your front end guy will think you've gone nuts and will wear out your tires. Trust me, you won't. It will wear just fine ...
<small>[ September 06, 2002, 06:47 PM: Message edited by: mitchntx ]</small>
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how will noise, vibrations, feel change?
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good choice ...
Noise will increase, ride will be stiffer and you should feel glued to the road.
Throw in a performance alignment
max positive caster
.5 negative camber
1/16" toe in
zero toe if you are good
1/16" toe out if you are an animal
You will definitely feel that difference.
Your front end guy will think you've gone nuts and will wear out your tires. Trust me, you won't. It will wear just fine ...
<small>[ September 06, 2002, 06:47 PM: Message edited by: mitchntx ]</small>
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Re: G2 suspension I have the following from LG:
subframes and V_braces
4pt engine bay brace
sway bars
ds safety loop
single adjustable phr
single adjustable lca
Every component that I installed I noticed a difference. I have had 3 different types of lca's. Global West non-adjustable, IRS terminator non-adjustable and the LG single adjustable. The GW lca's were loud as hell. The IRS lca's were quiet, but I wanted LG adjustable. The LG lca's are AWSOME!!! <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> They are not loud or transfer noise at all. I love them.
I do some auto-x'ing so I could tell the difference quite easily. If you want suspension and don't mind paying a little more, get LG.
"YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!"
Scott MAzoch
subframes and V_braces
4pt engine bay brace
sway bars
ds safety loop
single adjustable phr
single adjustable lca
Every component that I installed I noticed a difference. I have had 3 different types of lca's. Global West non-adjustable, IRS terminator non-adjustable and the LG single adjustable. The GW lca's were loud as hell. The IRS lca's were quiet, but I wanted LG adjustable. The LG lca's are AWSOME!!! <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> They are not loud or transfer noise at all. I love them.
I do some auto-x'ing so I could tell the difference quite easily. If you want suspension and don't mind paying a little more, get LG.
"YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!"
Scott MAzoch
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Re: G2 suspension [QUOTE]Originally posted by mitchntx:
Throw in a performance alignment
max positive caster
.5 negative camber
1/16" toe in
zero toe if you are good
1/16" toe out if you are an animal
Are these settings good for JUST a street car?
Throw in a performance alignment
max positive caster
.5 negative camber
1/16" toe in
zero toe if you are good
1/16" toe out if you are an animal
Are these settings good for JUST a street car?
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Re: G2 suspension Those alignment specs ( with zero toe ) worked exceedingly well at 165 mph for 40 minutes at last May's Silver State Classic race ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: G2 suspension Yes ... they are fine for a street car.
There are no tire wear issues. It will wander or road walk on road surfaces that are "wavey", but it's not a big deal.
There are no tire wear issues. It will wander or road walk on road surfaces that are "wavey", but it's not a big deal.
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Re: G2 suspension I've put 24,000 miles on my car in the last 2 years and I couldn't be happier with it's street manners. Tires are wearing evenly too. I've still got the original tires on it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> They are starting to get thin though.
