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Old 12-09-2002, 03:26 PM
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Is the Upper arm shorter? If so, you will have a lot of camber to dial out. Let me know some specifics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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I don't know, the following is what was quoted from the Thunder-Racing site:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Direct replacement for upper arms.
Upper arm provides more negative camber for improved tire life and cornering.
Caster has been increased to provide straight line stability and improved camber gain.
Upper ball joint angles are corrected.
Two types of upper bushings are available: DEL-A-LUM bushings. which offer a limited life time warranty or hard polyacetel bushings which carry no warranty. Both do the job, however Del-a-lum lasts several years longer.
Upper control arm bushings have grease fitting for easy bushing lubrication.
Control arms come with bushings installed.
Upper arms use stock upper ball joints.
Control arm kit comes with ball joint hardware.
Easy install and Alignment specs are included.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Also here is what is in Global West's website:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Tubular Front upper control arm kit (fits 1993-2002):

Global West has developed tubular upper control arms which provide the following:

Benefits and Features:
Direct replacement for upper arms.
Upper arm provides more negative camber for improved tire life and cornering.
Caster has also been increased which provides straight line stability and improved camber gain.
Upper ball joint angles are corrected.
Upper control arms reduce positive camber gain which provide greater cornering ability.
Two types of upper bushings are available: DEL-A-LUM bushings. which offer a limited life time
warranty or hard polyacetel bushings which carry no warranty. Both do the job, however
Del-a-lum lasts several years longer. We do not recommend polyurethane in this location.
Upper control arm bushings have grease fitting for easy bushing lubrication.
Control arms come with bushings installed.
Upper arms use stock upper ball joints.
Control arm kit comes with ball joint hardware.
Easy install.
Alignment specs are included. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Here is a picture:
<img src="http://www.globalwest.net/cta%2032d%20upper%20arms.jpg" alt=" - " />

Too bad, LGM did not have a tubular upper a-arm, that will be alot less painful.

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They will have some by the 1st of the year. I have a friend with the GW uppers, so Ill get him in here.
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That will be great. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> (both cases, that will help me to either get the GW unit or wait for the LGM unit next year.

Looking forward for your reply.

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Default LGM and GW front suspension products

I currently have a pair of G2 front lower control arm (not installed yet) for my 2002 SS. When I install the lower control arm, I plan to replace the upper arm with a tubular one also.

I am currently at Global West's front tubular upper control arm with Del-A-Lum bushing to pair up with the LGM's lower A-arm.

So far, I have the SLP factory Bilstein package (ordered with the car) with the following LGM and SLP components: LGM torque arm, LGM LCA, LGM PHR, SLP SFC, and SLP STB. Will the GW component work together with my LGM components? Suggestions and recommendations?

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Default Re: LGM and GW front suspension products

yes, they are shorter, I am thinking about these or the BMR uppers or the Addco uppers for my car this winter. I dont think I want heims, so I will probably go with the delalum bushings on the GW, just kinda costs more than i'd like to pay for them.

G2 LS1, i've checked your website a few times, and you guys have the front lower arms, but I dont see a list for uppers?

Do you not make them? Just wondering

My car is still a daily driver, I personally do not think I need front lower arms ( i autox and occasionally do a lapping session), but uppers are cheaper, and seem to give me most of the benefit of the lowers.

anyone have any comments on these things?
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I run the GW uppers with the del-alum and stock lowers( 1LE) and the car is great for street and autox. I have heard the LG lower is nice, but hard to adjust. I get up to 2 deg neg camber at 1le ride height. I got no increase in rise harshness and I run 1.5 deg neg camber for street use with no tire wear. the best thin about the GW arms is that they greatly improve turn in and increase the camber curve so the car grips greatly. This set up with the GW height adj front spring kit and 550lb springs( not GW's 800+ lb springs) was what we used to finish second at nationals in Street Mod in 2000.
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I have the GW uppers on mine and the lower LGs will be fitted shortly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> so I think they are going to fit just nicely as I'll probably be the test car for the fitment so if anything goes wrong you'll hear it first.
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They are not on the site because we have yet to design them. with the adj. Lowers on the WC cars, there was no need for a shorter upper. I will keep you all informed! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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1LEThumper:
Please do post your results on your G2/GW front suspension experience, looking forward to read your post.

G2 LS1:
I would love to hear from you concernin both the GW and your future G2 front tubular upper A-arm.

Looks like I am going to hold on my front suspension mod until next year, so I can choose form the G2 or GW units.

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Default Re: LGM and GW front suspension products

I have the LG lower and GW upper combo with
LG coilover kit.

With this combo I was limited at caster and could not go lower than 6 deg because of how the LG arm is designed.

My guess is that because GW designed the upper to work with stock lower control arm geometry and simply replaced the bushings with spherical bearings.

In any case I don't see the point to go to a GW upper if you're going to run an LG lower. You are just introducing too many changes to LCA geometry and length..

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so I would be fine with just the LG lower, and not bother with an upper for now?
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Eric, You are correct. To maximize grip, you want to make the track width of the car as wide as possible- that means bringing the lower out, not moving the upper in.

The soon to come LG upper will allow you adjustability and quality with out shortening it. You will be able to shorten it, but also lengthen it as well <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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In that case, I'll wait for the LG upper A-Arm, and your LG's road racing K-member (approx how much?) before I do anything with my upper suspension then. I would rather pay for installation once than twice.

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The front of the car is apart now, and you should be getting some updates probably in a couple weeks or so.




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