Whats the best sticking and longest lasting tire out there?
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I want to get a pretty damn good sticking tire, but then I dont want to replace them every 10k miles. C'mon guys...I know that everyone out there doesnt run the same tires....give me your opinion on what tires I should go with. Remember...long lasting, but good dry traction. Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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How much power and what size tire I might have just the thing! The NItto DR last a long time and alot of the people I know have them don't heat them up to street race (400-500hp cars). Or if you don't care about rain traction and have the rim for it then p-zero track tires. They are slicks and have a ton of ruber on them, Autox cars use them and they are sweet in corners and I have seen them hold up to 500hp vette.
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Too generic of a question <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
What are your driving habits, weather conditions, road conditions, wheel width, wallet size, etc. Are you going to use this same tire for all events (street, drag, auto-x, etc)?
I personally don't like changing tires for different events. My favorite so far is the Bridgestone Pole Position S-03. My rear tires are worn down to slicks (literally), and that was 24K miles exactly. About 8K of that was roadtrips into 14 states. Those things saved my a$$ going through I-24 in the mountainous GA/TN border. I was cutting through them about 95MPH, come around a corner and there's a wet area on the pavement. Rear end did a 'sashay' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> about a half-lane over (I was in the inside of three lanes, no traffic, daylight), then it grabbed. About 1/4mi later, my heart re-started and I slowed down a bit.
The front tires have the same mileage but could go another 5-10K of daily driving I'd imagine (but I run'em down past the treadwear indicators). Due to an aggressive alignment that won't be happening.
Tires haven't been rotated once, for better or worse. Fantastic in the rain, and I think they hook on the street just as well as the original Nitto's I had a few years back.
Just received my new set today. However, their tire sizes are a bit odd. For instance, they don't offer a 275/40/17...I've had to use a 265/40/17 ($199/ea @ Tirerack). Put about 500mi on them and they come into their own.
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What are your driving habits, weather conditions, road conditions, wheel width, wallet size, etc. Are you going to use this same tire for all events (street, drag, auto-x, etc)?
I personally don't like changing tires for different events. My favorite so far is the Bridgestone Pole Position S-03. My rear tires are worn down to slicks (literally), and that was 24K miles exactly. About 8K of that was roadtrips into 14 states. Those things saved my a$$ going through I-24 in the mountainous GA/TN border. I was cutting through them about 95MPH, come around a corner and there's a wet area on the pavement. Rear end did a 'sashay' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> about a half-lane over (I was in the inside of three lanes, no traffic, daylight), then it grabbed. About 1/4mi later, my heart re-started and I slowed down a bit.
The front tires have the same mileage but could go another 5-10K of daily driving I'd imagine (but I run'em down past the treadwear indicators). Due to an aggressive alignment that won't be happening.
Tires haven't been rotated once, for better or worse. Fantastic in the rain, and I think they hook on the street just as well as the original Nitto's I had a few years back.
Just received my new set today. However, their tire sizes are a bit odd. For instance, they don't offer a 275/40/17...I've had to use a 265/40/17 ($199/ea @ Tirerack). Put about 500mi on them and they come into their own.
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let me put it this way to you. the more grip the car has, the shorter its life span will be. for example, the tires on an indy car feel like the eraser on a pencil. If the driver locks the tires up for a split second, the tires have a flat spot on then and are no longer good. But then again they only last for 40 laps. Just remember the more grip the less life. From the way you describe it stay with the nittos. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
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This is just my opinion, but I absolutely loved my Dunlop SP Sport 5000's. Right now, I have rouhgly 41K miles on them, and there's still about 7-10K miles worth of tread left! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> They've handled great in the dry, and even better in the rain. Straight line traction is awesome, especially when they're new, but like with any other tire I'm sure, once the tread starts getting really low, they'll start to spin a lil more. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I have the 275/40/17 variety, and for the price, I feel they're hard to beat. They were $160 each, shipped from Tirerack!
Since my car is gonna start being driven less here in the future, I think I'm gonna try that new Yokohama AVS ES 100. I absolutely love that tread pattern, and the tread rating isn't too awful bad either. The price is the best part, at only $121 ea. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I guess I won't be out too much if they suck A$$!! lol
Since my car is gonna start being driven less here in the future, I think I'm gonna try that new Yokohama AVS ES 100. I absolutely love that tread pattern, and the tread rating isn't too awful bad either. The price is the best part, at only $121 ea. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I guess I won't be out too much if they suck A$$!! lol
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I agree with Fatboy, the BFG series of tires are great. Personally, I have the BFG-kdws all season tires and they hook a lot better in the rain than the Goodyears ever did on dry pavement. I have had mine for about 18,000 miles now and I still have another good 12-15k left in em.
Try the BFG-kd's or kdw's if you need rain condition tires as well.
Try the BFG-kd's or kdw's if you need rain condition tires as well.
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Toyo Proxes RA-1
"Sticky" and "Long lasting" are not typically used for street applications. However, the best "R" rated DOT tire that I have come across would be the Toyo RA-1's. They last quite a long time for an "R" tire, are VERY sticky (especially when warmed) and are not too expensive.
They offer excellant grip and good predictability. Keep them set about 30-34psi cold, never go above 41psi hot.
I can get over 10k miles on them without any track days if I don't get them shaved first. New and shaved, they'll last well over 12 hrs on the track.
They do NOT offer the MOST grip avalible for any tire, but you wanted to comprimise for "long lasting". These are also probably the best price for "R" rated tires.
Hope this helps.
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"Sticky" and "Long lasting" are not typically used for street applications. However, the best "R" rated DOT tire that I have come across would be the Toyo RA-1's. They last quite a long time for an "R" tire, are VERY sticky (especially when warmed) and are not too expensive.
They offer excellant grip and good predictability. Keep them set about 30-34psi cold, never go above 41psi hot.
I can get over 10k miles on them without any track days if I don't get them shaved first. New and shaved, they'll last well over 12 hrs on the track.
They do NOT offer the MOST grip avalible for any tire, but you wanted to comprimise for "long lasting". These are also probably the best price for "R" rated tires.
Hope this helps.
-Brad