Strano Offset bushings- max camber ZERO?
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Strano Offset bushings- max camber ZERO?
What In the world can be happening with my '01 Camaro? Or is it Me? 26" front fender ride height with GC/KONI and Sam's offset bushings. Took it for alignment today and after the shop had it OFF the rack they tell me all they could get is 0 degrees camber. They set caster at 4.5 with zero toe. Does caster adjustment negate camber with fourth gens? I'm extrordinarily disappointed to say the least. A previous alignment (same mech, same shop) at 25" ride height and stock bushings resulted in 1.9 and 2.0 degrees neg camber. I'm confused.
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Man, that sucks. Hopefully Sam will chime in. I'm very curious to see whats up here. Please update when you figure out for sure.
I'm looking for a little more neg camber myself (my max is -1.2).
I'm looking for a little more neg camber myself (my max is -1.2).
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@ 26" I have around -1.7, and some folks have a full -2.... Even if the bushings were in backwards, that's about a 1/2 degree change, and my car stock got about -.8....
Either they are idiots and/or the machine is hugely out of calibration. I've NEVER seen a completely stock 4th gen not be able to get at least *some* negative camber.
Either they are idiots and/or the machine is hugely out of calibration. I've NEVER seen a completely stock 4th gen not be able to get at least *some* negative camber.
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I'm located in Turbotville PA. Conveniently about two hours from Sam's front door. As far as calibration is concerned, I don't know who's further out of wack the Mechanic or the machine. PITA but he's 500 feet from my door. THis is just ONE of the reasons I like to do things myself. I didn't want to jump to conclusions, without some others advice. Thanks for the Help. A long time ago Sam offered up his Alignment guy, so I may have to have to re-visit that offer if he's still willing. Despite the drive.
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I didn't realize that was you Ted.... Sorry. I don't recall having seen your car in a positive camber state before, so I'm wondering how it is now. The bushings are definitely in so that they effective shorten the upper a-arm? I'm sure they are, just checking since someone swore they had them right last week..... and didn't.
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Bushings are indeed correct. The lower control arms are "hubbed out" according to the alignment guy. I didn't check yet myself though. He set caster at around 5 degrees. Does setting caster first negate neg camber? THat I don't know. My corded street tires tell me that I had a lot of neg camber prior to taking it in, and my evenly worn 710s tell me the same thing. I'll call you tommorrow.
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That guy's machine is Fk'd up. If you are cording the inside edge you have lots of negative camber and/or you are very toed-out. Inspect the front LCA to k-memeber bolts to see where they are located in the slots as well.
I'm at 26" F height and get -1 camber near the middle of the adjustment slots using a REBCO bubble gauge.
I'm at 26" F height and get -1 camber near the middle of the adjustment slots using a REBCO bubble gauge.
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I finally looked under the car last week. Camber bolts Hubbed to the INSIDE of the K member. What a mistake it was to take it somewhere close rather than to someone I trust. I Re-aligned the car before this past weekend's Two day event. 5 degrees caster, 1.4 degrees Un-maxed camber and zero toe. Maxed out its negative 2+ degrees, but I'm running out of money for tires! Now That I have a good baseline, I think I can handle the adjustments myself. Thanks for eveyone's advice before I go dick on the guy who screwed it up.
Sam, Thanks for the driving discussion this past weekend. I guess I listened for a change. Somehow though, I feel punishing payback coming on the 5th....
Sam, Thanks for the driving discussion this past weekend. I guess I listened for a change. Somehow though, I feel punishing payback coming on the 5th....
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I'm just glad we know your car isn't tweaked, just the guy you had work on it.
Nice job this weekend. Always happy to put a foot up your *** if you need it (just ask). We'll see about the 5th, I really miss running my car!!!
Nice job this weekend. Always happy to put a foot up your *** if you need it (just ask). We'll see about the 5th, I really miss running my car!!!
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