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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:07 AM
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Ok, so for those of you with lowered F bodies, who has an aftermarket T/A along with their lowered suspension.

I hear that it is almost a must, yet never here it mentioned when people lower their rides.

So the poll is just to see how many have gotten aftermarket T/As when they lowered vs those who have not.

You can explain further for your reasoning so we/I can get more info out of this
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:36 AM
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Lower it to much and that pretty T/A's gonna bang on everything.

Ive taken lowering springs out becuase of ground clearance with a T/A.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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I plan on getting some strano springs that is why I asked.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Lowered, with an adjustable TA (UMI full length) due to wanting to make sure the driveline angle was set correctly. Never measured it before, and have it set about -1* now.

After installing my Strange 12-bolt, it was really a must...the previous settings that I used on my 10-bolt didn't even come close to bringing the angles in line. They were a good 6-7* off.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Good to hear...

Dang, it might be a full year until I can rightfully lower my car. I don't want to piece it togother in the wrong way. With Stanos, Konis, Strano sways, rod PHB, T/A.... that's a load of money...
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Lowered, with an adjustable TA (UMI full length) due to wanting to make sure the driveline angle was set correctly. Never measured it before, and have it set about -1* now.

After installing my Strange 12-bolt, it was really a must...the previous settings that I used on my 10-bolt didn't even come close to bringing the angles in line. They were a good 6-7* off.
Also, regarding both the adjustable T/A and PHB's out there, how reliable are they at keeping their adjustments? I'm just curious because the whole idea of being adjustable is awesome, but I have no clue if they have to be tweaked at all here and there from rattles/stress loosening them at all. Assuming the parts are all top notch and all, is this even an issue?
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As long as you tighten down all of the jam nuts, they'll never move out of adjustment. Once they are set, you are good to go.
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Lowered, with an adjustable TA (UMI full length) due to wanting to make sure the driveline angle was set correctly. Never measured it before, and have it set about -1* now.

After installing my Strange 12-bolt, it was really a must...the previous settings that I used on my 10-bolt didn't even come close to bringing the angles in line. They were a good 6-7* off.
Ditto, only mine is a Moser 12-bolt.


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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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An adjustable TA is not in any way required to lower a car. I do it all the time with stock TA's. Sure, if you slam the car to the deck you might have some trouble, but my springs don't do that. If you change your rear axle you might have some trouble, but seems you are staying with what you have.

I have never heard that anyone thinks an adjustable TA is a must when lowering, I certainly don't agree. I think an adjustable PHB pretty much is, but not a torque arm.

I ran my car for month with a stock TA. The only reason I changed was because the stock one was making for brake-hop problems, and a more rigid unit doesn't store energy like a stock one that's more flimsy and winds up.
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I have a Spohn adj. TA and there is no way in hell I'd lower my car... It's at stock ride height now and most of the time I come to a speed bump it smacks it... So if I lowered it then I'd probably tear **** up..

Not to hijack the thread or get too off topic, but you guys with the 12 bolts, what made you go that route instead of 9" and are you happy with moser or whoever you used? Noisey?
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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No need for an aftermarket TA unless wheel hop is an issue for you. With sticky tires you can get more axle wind-up and thus more wheel hop. I'm talking DOT and drag race tires and the best street tires only.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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I get wheel hop on turns on wet pavement even... It's bad.
I however plan to get some Koni 4/4's Strano springs etc etc.

I guess I should wait and see if I still have it after my suspension mods. Then if I still do I guess its T/A time.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CranMaro99
I get wheel hop on turns on wet pavement even... It's bad.
I however plan to get some Koni 4/4's Strano springs etc etc.

I guess I should wait and see if I still have it after my suspension mods. Then if I still do I guess its T/A time.
Some LCA's will help with wheel hop too... cheap pair should work.. I got a deal on some used lakewoods and that's what i'm running..

You could also take the stockers and box them in if you're looking to save cash..
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Look at LCA Relocation brackets as well. Helped me a lot, but I have the Eibach Pro Kit, which is lower than Strano. I got the bolt in ones and also welded them in.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Let's not get the cart in front of the horse. First the car can hop for many reasons. Tires, LCA windup, TA, shocks, etc, etc. (including shocks).

I suggest we work the shocks/springs in and don't do anything else until you can see what the result it. Might well be that your wheelhop stops, or changes. Or maybe not, but then we'll know and we can pick the next part to try and combat what you are getting for hop. I generally start with LCA's. but only certain types and not the cheap ones because while they can kill hop they also bind the axle up in roll a bit which I don't want.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
Let's not get the cart in front of the horse. First the car can hop for many reasons. Tires, LCA windup, TA, shocks, etc, etc. (including shocks).

I suggest we work the shocks/springs in and don't do anything else until you can see what the result it. Might well be that your wheelhop stops, or changes. Or maybe not, but then we'll know and we can pick the next part to try and combat what you are getting for hop. I generally start with LCA's. but only certain types and not the cheap ones because while they can kill hop they also bind the axle up in roll a bit which I don't want.
Not "getting the cart in front of the horse," just saying what I've got and I don't experience wheel hop as far as I know or feel.. Feels sturdy and plants pretty good...

Lakewood LCA's, Spohn SFC's, Spohn adj TA... Might work for you or might not..
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I wasn't addressing anyone in particular, only that it's best to be wise about what parts when and that at this point considering a shocks and spring change seems to be coming, I'd recommend waiting on the other things.

I also didn't disagree that cheap (read boxed or tubular LCA's with poly) don't help wheelhop, or that your car doesn't wheelhop. I'm looking at more than just wheelhop, these are suspension parts that do more than just deal with that. Do they help hop? Sure they do. Doesn't mean other things won't and do it without the loss of free articulation from the rear axle.
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Sam is the MAN! I'd listen to him Just look at his sig for examples of why! Got his springs and Koni 4/4's and love'em!
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Oh yeah and I voted No, just because I didnt feel its necessary for what I do with the car- nor do I have any more money to pour into it and this time, but tax return is coming.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
I wasn't addressing anyone in particular, only that it's best to be wise about what parts when and that at this point considering a shocks and spring change seems to be coming, I'd recommend waiting on the other things.

I also didn't disagree that cheap (read boxed or tubular LCA's with poly) don't help wheelhop, or that your car doesn't wheelhop. I'm looking at more than just wheelhop, these are suspension parts that do more than just deal with that. Do they help hop? Sure they do. Doesn't mean other things won't and do it without the loss of free articulation from the rear axle.
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