Bluray question???
Bluray question??? I have very nice 67 inch samsung dlp LED. Just got it 6 months ago and this tv produces killer hd and bluray images. I recently just got a samsung blueray that is being run with a monster 1000 cable. This is a top of the line cable. My question is that I have watched about 5 blueray movies now. Three of the movies have been crystal clear 100% badass quality. The other two looked very grainy and fuzzy. Maybe even worse quality than a regular dvd player. Why is this? By buddy has practically the same setup as me and he said he noticed the same thing. On some bluray movies the quality is not good at all. I just watched Bankok Dangerous and it was horrible quality. Have any of yall had this issue?
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Is your TV 120hz?
1: You really need a 120Hz TV to correctly display a bluray movie.
2: A 67" DLP TV isn't exactly going to display a super clear picture compared to the smaller LCD's that really shine with bluray.
As for the Monster 1000 cable - That's really not going to help anything. Unless you are running > 8' you shouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on a cable.
1: You really need a 120Hz TV to correctly display a bluray movie.
2: A 67" DLP TV isn't exactly going to display a super clear picture compared to the smaller LCD's that really shine with bluray.
As for the Monster 1000 cable - That's really not going to help anything. Unless you are running > 8' you shouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on a cable.
I noticed this same thing the other day. I have a 47" LG Full HD 1080 and I was watching Planet Earth on Blu Ray. Some scenes looked amazing, crystal clear. Others, on the same disc, were grainy and fuzzy.
Is your TV 120hz?
1: You really need a 120Hz TV to correctly display a bluray movie.
2: A 67" DLP TV isn't exactly going to display a super clear picture compared to the smaller LCD's that really shine with bluray.
As for the Monster 1000 cable - That's really not going to help anything. Unless you are running > 8' you shouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on a cable.
1: You really need a 120Hz TV to correctly display a bluray movie.
2: A 67" DLP TV isn't exactly going to display a super clear picture compared to the smaller LCD's that really shine with bluray.
As for the Monster 1000 cable - That's really not going to help anything. Unless you are running > 8' you shouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on a cable.
Is your TV 120hz?
1: You really need a 120Hz TV to correctly display a bluray movie.
2: A 67" DLP TV isn't exactly going to display a super clear picture compared to the smaller LCD's that really shine with bluray.
As for the Monster 1000 cable - That's really not going to help anything. Unless you are running > 8' you shouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on a cable.
1: You really need a 120Hz TV to correctly display a bluray movie.
2: A 67" DLP TV isn't exactly going to display a super clear picture compared to the smaller LCD's that really shine with bluray.
As for the Monster 1000 cable - That's really not going to help anything. Unless you are running > 8' you shouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on a cable.
1. No you dont, 120Hz displays are nothing more than unatural injections of spliced frames into, well...a sequence of frames. IMO they are only good for anime & Gaming...This technology is hit or miss, I for one can't stand it for regular movies
2. Screen size & Picture clarity (all other things equal) is relative ONLY to viewing distance. Also, DLP's are a GREAT budget TV...there is just little flexability in viewing ANGLE with projection TV's, therefore you have to set up the TV in a room/spot where is get's viewed from the same straight forward angle.
3. Cables - If you're big baller buying 67" DLP 1080p Bluray setups, then go ahead and get the good cables. The IMPORTANT thing is to buy v1.3+ HDMI cables as these support 1080p...
it's possible that the movie itself is the problem....especially if it's older movies that are being re-mastered in HD. crap in = crap out
the only way to really know for sure is to take the movie to a friend's house who also has an HD setup and try it out there...if the problem persists, you know it's likely the movie.
and you might even be able to take your blu-ray player with you as well, just to test out the quality between players.
the only way to really know for sure is to take the movie to a friend's house who also has an HD setup and try it out there...if the problem persists, you know it's likely the movie.
and you might even be able to take your blu-ray player with you as well, just to test out the quality between players.
The problem is most likely the Movie you are watching. Not all the movies productions had enough bank to film in full 1080p.
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You are wrong about that. The cable makes a huge difference. There is no point in having a a badass tv and a badass blueray with a cable that cant keep up with the signal.
The problem is most likely the Movie you are watching. Not all the movies productions had enough bank to film in full 1080p.
The problem is most likely the Movie you are watching. Not all the movies productions had enough bank to film in full 1080p.
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check out a site like www.blu-ray.com and read reviews on movies before you buy them. some older movies are basically a dump of the dvd version onto a blu-ray disc and have no quality benefits over the dvd. and like you noticed, when you have a high end system, 'regular' definition video can actually look worse. especially things like standard cable tv.
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I am in agreement about the actual BR discs. The movie companies will not always spend money enhancing an older movie, when they know people are going to purchase it regardless. I remember when I bought Robin Hood on DVD years ago. The movie looked like they burned it directly from a VHS copy. It was horrible. My wife picked up BR Top Gun for me for Christmas. It is a really nice improvement from the regular DVD, but of course BR Dark Knight looks way better.
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As others have said, unless it was digitally remastered or re-scanned from the original film frames in high resolution, the quality is hit or miss. Keep a close eye on the reviews. Your setup is fine.
And the idea of 120 Hz + Blu-ray is to eliminate "judder" associated with watching 24p content on a 60Hz TV. Otherwise, the player will convert the images using pulldown to 30p (by adding additional frames). 24 is not a multiple of 60, so it can't match the scan rate, but it is a multiple of 120. It is not required, but die-hard videophiles wanting to see the films in their original 24 frame-per-second theatrical format will want a 120Hz TV to avoid "judder".
As for cables, just make sure they are well shielded and HDMI 1.3a capable. Monster cables tend to have heavier shielding, but impedence tests show that they are really no different internally than cheaper alternatives. You're paying for the brand name moreso than the technology. I've been running 7.1 DTS-HD MA (PCM - PS3) + 1080p (Mitsubishi 73" DLP) through a $60 cable without any problems. My HD-DVD player bitstreams 7.1 DTS-HD MA just fine, too (Pan's Labyrinth) decoded by an Onkyo TX-SR605. Chronicles or Narnia: Prince Caspian sounds phenomenal in 7.1.
I hope you have a decent sound system because there's much more to Blu-ray than just the picture quality.
And the idea of 120 Hz + Blu-ray is to eliminate "judder" associated with watching 24p content on a 60Hz TV. Otherwise, the player will convert the images using pulldown to 30p (by adding additional frames). 24 is not a multiple of 60, so it can't match the scan rate, but it is a multiple of 120. It is not required, but die-hard videophiles wanting to see the films in their original 24 frame-per-second theatrical format will want a 120Hz TV to avoid "judder".
As for cables, just make sure they are well shielded and HDMI 1.3a capable. Monster cables tend to have heavier shielding, but impedence tests show that they are really no different internally than cheaper alternatives. You're paying for the brand name moreso than the technology. I've been running 7.1 DTS-HD MA (PCM - PS3) + 1080p (Mitsubishi 73" DLP) through a $60 cable without any problems. My HD-DVD player bitstreams 7.1 DTS-HD MA just fine, too (Pan's Labyrinth) decoded by an Onkyo TX-SR605. Chronicles or Narnia: Prince Caspian sounds phenomenal in 7.1.
I hope you have a decent sound system because there's much more to Blu-ray than just the picture quality.
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Older films tend to be more grainy because of the film stock, and that's the look they wanted to achieve with this movie, apparently. I haven't seen it yet.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies...33&show=review
"Bangkok Dangerous sights in on Blu-ray courtesy of Lionsgate with a 1080p transfer and framed in a 1.78:1 aspect ratio. The film offers something of a stylized look that doesn't stand out as too odd or distracting, but it also doesn't lend itself very well to top-flight high definition eye candy, either. This is a very dark movie, and one that is also extremely grainy, which lends a unique, but very cinematic, look and feel to the film. Blacks, in which the film is bathed, are stable but sometimes veer towards being a bit too bright. The dark nights on the Bangkok streets are punctuated nicely by spots of neon color that offer the best bit of vibrancy throughout the image. Interior shots are mostly drab and only moderately-at-best lit. As a result of the dark, stylized, drab look, flesh tones take on a yellowish, slightly green tint in many shots. Still, detail is adequate; many close-ups of Nicolas Cage's face reveal all the finest of nuances. However, fine detail is rather low elsewhere. Most objects, foreground and background, appear soft and undefined. What there is to see does look great; a boating scene in chapter nine reveals excellent color reproduction and above average detail on many objects. The finale is bathed in various colors, red and blue, primarily, that again add to the stylized look of the film. Bangkok Dangerous will never be a reference grade disc, but the transfer appears to be an accurate representation of the film's intended look and feel."
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies...33&show=review
"Bangkok Dangerous sights in on Blu-ray courtesy of Lionsgate with a 1080p transfer and framed in a 1.78:1 aspect ratio. The film offers something of a stylized look that doesn't stand out as too odd or distracting, but it also doesn't lend itself very well to top-flight high definition eye candy, either. This is a very dark movie, and one that is also extremely grainy, which lends a unique, but very cinematic, look and feel to the film. Blacks, in which the film is bathed, are stable but sometimes veer towards being a bit too bright. The dark nights on the Bangkok streets are punctuated nicely by spots of neon color that offer the best bit of vibrancy throughout the image. Interior shots are mostly drab and only moderately-at-best lit. As a result of the dark, stylized, drab look, flesh tones take on a yellowish, slightly green tint in many shots. Still, detail is adequate; many close-ups of Nicolas Cage's face reveal all the finest of nuances. However, fine detail is rather low elsewhere. Most objects, foreground and background, appear soft and undefined. What there is to see does look great; a boating scene in chapter nine reveals excellent color reproduction and above average detail on many objects. The finale is bathed in various colors, red and blue, primarily, that again add to the stylized look of the film. Bangkok Dangerous will never be a reference grade disc, but the transfer appears to be an accurate representation of the film's intended look and feel."
Top of the line and monster cable don't belong in the same sentence... Kimber Cable is up in the ranks, but VERY expensive. I have seen some cost in the thousands.
One of the main problems your seeing is the quality of cameras. You can have one scene that is crystal clear then the next is really grainy and looks like crap. The advancements in technology have come ALONG way and some movies are shot with Multiple style cameras thus the reason you see different screen shots. You can really notice this during a sporting event that is changing angles a lot. Also older movies that have been remastered also are shot with a lower quality camera making them grainy also.
One of the main problems your seeing is the quality of cameras. You can have one scene that is crystal clear then the next is really grainy and looks like crap. The advancements in technology have come ALONG way and some movies are shot with Multiple style cameras thus the reason you see different screen shots. You can really notice this during a sporting event that is changing angles a lot. Also older movies that have been remastered also are shot with a lower quality camera making them grainy also.
As to the blu-ray player some are upscaled to 1080p and others are true HD 1080p.
As to the cables a $8 dollar cable is just as good as your $100.00 monster cable. All your paying for is the brand name.
As to the Mhz it is to allow the frames to play smoother, during transistions. This way missing frames are played in sync and clear.
CySevans hit all of this in his post.
However one thing most have yet to hit on is your TV settings.
We have a Samsung 63' plasma tv and blu-ray player. However if you change your settings on the tv from the prespective modes (sport, game, standard, etc.), you can either get the highlights in the dark or the highlights in the bright colors. Check and see or maybe check your hardware. Who knows maybe its just defective. Not sure if this will help you with the grain look as I also have the same movie and dont notice any grain.
-J
As to the cables a $8 dollar cable is just as good as your $100.00 monster cable. All your paying for is the brand name.
As to the Mhz it is to allow the frames to play smoother, during transistions. This way missing frames are played in sync and clear.
CySevans hit all of this in his post.
However one thing most have yet to hit on is your TV settings.
We have a Samsung 63' plasma tv and blu-ray player. However if you change your settings on the tv from the prespective modes (sport, game, standard, etc.), you can either get the highlights in the dark or the highlights in the bright colors. Check and see or maybe check your hardware. Who knows maybe its just defective. Not sure if this will help you with the grain look as I also have the same movie and dont notice any grain.
-J
I had this same issue...You might have the TV picture set on a "dynamic contrast" setting. I was watching a movie in BR the other night and noticed the "pixels" or "grainy". I usually watch regular tv in this setting because the colors are brighter, but I switched the TV setting to "movie" while I was watching the BR and it was a big improvement. Night and day as far as "grainy."
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I had this same issue...You might have the TV picture set on a "dynamic contrast" setting. I was watching a movie in BR the other night and noticed the "pixels" or "grainy". I usually watch regular tv in this setting because the colors are brighter, but I switched the TV setting to "movie" while I was watching the BR and it was a big improvement. Night and day as far as "grainy."
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We have a Samsung 63' plasma tv and blu-ray player. However if you change your settings on the tv from the prespective modes (sport, game, standard, etc.), you can either get the highlights in the dark or the highlights in the bright colors. Check and see or maybe check your hardware. Who knows maybe its just defective. Not sure if this will help you with the grain look as I also have the same movie and dont notice any grain.
-J
-J
And I use a sound pressure level meter to calibrate the sound system.
Don't use factory pre-sets.