What gun to get...and where?
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http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_.../sigma_100507/
http://gundirectory.com/more.asp?gid=20225&gun=Pistol
http://www.policelink.com/products/p...son-sigma-40ve
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Kelly, I have shot just about every gun referenced in this thread so far and there are MANY great suggestions here. I would shoot a few different rounds and types of side-arms before making your decision. You have to feel comfortable carrying and using what you purchase. There is definitely a choice to be made of what type of round you want to use for what situation. I personally like the .45 with Federal hydra-shok rounds for stopping power. I carry a Colt 1911. This gun may be a little more expensive than what you are looking for though. It’s also not the easiest to conceal.
I would try Springfield’s XD sub-compact .45 and .40. I have it in the .45 cal and love the way it shoots. You can pick one up for around $500 give or take. Whatever you do, shoot it before you buy it. Others you may like are the Glock 23 .40 or the S&W sw9gve here’s a link for that one
(http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...13&isFirearm=Y)
I have a few different ones if you’d like to try them out. And I know there’s many others in LSM that have a variety of firearms they might let you try. Let me know if there’s anything I can help with.
I would try Springfield’s XD sub-compact .45 and .40. I have it in the .45 cal and love the way it shoots. You can pick one up for around $500 give or take. Whatever you do, shoot it before you buy it. Others you may like are the Glock 23 .40 or the S&W sw9gve here’s a link for that one
(http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...13&isFirearm=Y)
I have a few different ones if you’d like to try them out. And I know there’s many others in LSM that have a variety of firearms they might let you try. Let me know if there’s anything I can help with.
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You could go with a Smith & Wesson SW40VE (.40). It's pretty cheap at Academy $339. I have heard the trigger is pretty heavy on it, but there are mods you can do to them to lighten them up. The reviews I have read about them say they don't jam. They are basically a copy of a Glock.
I've held one at Academy and they are pretty light.
I've held one at Academy and they are pretty light.
SW makes good guns, they are called revolvers. Their handguns, specially the Sigma line leaves a lot to be desired.
Just being honest, I have one as my secondary weapon at home.
It has a HORRIBLE trigger pull which makes accurate shooting at even 15 yards difficult.
Will it get the job done? Yes. Is it better to spend an extra 100-150 bucks for a better gun? YES
The sigma was a cheap knock off from the glock, simple as that. And SW did not get even close.
Springfield XD40, or even a Ruger. (I really like shooting my DC95 and is my favorite gun)
Too big for CC, but for that a Glock 26 is hard to beat.
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i've got a baby eagle .45 and love it. wouldn't use it as a carry gun due to weight, but i've never had any problems. i have heard the poly frames are not reliable as the metal ones though.
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Provide evidence with these comments. Most reviews I have read have been favorable.
http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_.../sigma_100507/
http://gundirectory.com/more.asp?gid=20225&gun=Pistol
http://www.policelink.com/products/p...son-sigma-40ve
http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_.../sigma_100507/
http://gundirectory.com/more.asp?gid=20225&gun=Pistol
http://www.policelink.com/products/p...son-sigma-40ve
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You could go with a Smith & Wesson SW40VE (.40). It's pretty cheap at Academy $339. I have heard the trigger is pretty heavy on it, but there are mods you can do to them to lighten them up. The reviews I have read about them say they don't jam. They are basically a copy of a Glock.
I've held one at Academy and they are pretty light.
I've held one at Academy and they are pretty light.
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Don't forget the 357sig chambering either. The shouldered case makes for reliable feeding. It helps funnel the case in the chamber. Ammo is pricier than 9mm, but i reload for plinking. I have the H&K p2000 in 357sig and i wouldn't trade it for anything.
The bersa 380's are also a good gun at a decent price.
The bersa 380's are also a good gun at a decent price.
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I have shot one. Very inaccurate and leaves more to be desired. I have 2 friends that have them and have shot both. I was looking at buying one till I shot it. I own a Springfield Xd. Shot one and you will enjoy the difference. Glock is a good gun, but I was looking at subcompacts and the 26 wont fit my hand. Oh, and everything you read on the net is good info, lol. Dont believe anything till you find out for yourself.
That's like saying golf sucks and is a game for sissy's because I sucked at it the first time I played.
I guess it's safe to say this guy can't trust a ******* thing you are saying in this thread...since it's on the "internet", right?
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So, you shot one once and wasn't accurate, so they are all junk? I'd chalk that up as needing practice with the gun instead of just writing it off as junk.
That's like saying golf sucks and is a game for sissy's because I sucked at it the first time I played.
I guess it's safe to say this guy can't trust a ******* thing you are saying in this thread...since it's on the "internet", right?
That's like saying golf sucks and is a game for sissy's because I sucked at it the first time I played.
I guess it's safe to say this guy can't trust a ******* thing you are saying in this thread...since it's on the "internet", right?
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Everyone has their opnion. If you want a cheap gun then buy it. I wouldnt trust my life to it. Dont get mad because you have one and I dont like them. The 2 that I shot I did not like. I am an accurate shot with practice. I shot the sw sigma enough and it was inconsistant. The trigger doesnt feel natural and I felt like the gun would jam with enough rounds through it. Here an idea buy a more expensive gun, like it, trust your life to it and dont get butthurt about me not liking your cheap gun.
I was just throwing it out there as an alternative to a $800 Sig.
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Kelly, I have shot just about every gun referenced in this thread so far and there are MANY great suggestions here. I would shoot a few different rounds and types of side-arms before making your decision. You have to feel comfortable carrying and using what you purchase. There is definitely a choice to be made of what type of round you want to use for what situation. I personally like the .45 with Federal hydra-shok rounds for stopping power. I carry a Colt 1911. This gun may be a little more expensive than what you are looking for though. It’s also not the easiest to conceal.
I would try Springfield’s XD sub-compact .45 and .40. I have it in the .45 cal and love the way it shoots. You can pick one up for around $500 give or take. Whatever you do, shoot it before you buy it. Others you may like are the Glock 23 .40 or the S&W sw9gve here’s a link for that one
(http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...13&isFirearm=Y)
I have a few different ones if you’d like to try them out. And I know there’s many others in LSM that have a variety of firearms they might let you try. Let me know if there’s anything I can help with.
I would try Springfield’s XD sub-compact .45 and .40. I have it in the .45 cal and love the way it shoots. You can pick one up for around $500 give or take. Whatever you do, shoot it before you buy it. Others you may like are the Glock 23 .40 or the S&W sw9gve here’s a link for that one
(http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...13&isFirearm=Y)
I have a few different ones if you’d like to try them out. And I know there’s many others in LSM that have a variety of firearms they might let you try. Let me know if there’s anything I can help with.
From a learned CQB standpoint, go with the .40, .45, or .357 Sig. These are all PROVEN manstoppers -why are you carrying? Of course, I've seen a lot of people ex'ed out with 9mm too. But if you have the option to choose, the larger rounds have better statistical terminal ballistics. There is nothing wrong with going to a full size weapon either. I used to carry an H&K USP .40 with a Walther P99 in .40 as a backup. Then I went to an H&K Socom .45. The Socom was designed from the onset as an "offense" weapon. Though I like shooting it, it isn't the hottest ticket for a CCW. In spite of the similarities in design between it and the USP, I found it hard to clear from concealment. If I carry at all now, I carry handbuilt 1911s. Pricey? Yes. But what is your life worth? The only people who are going to see the "print" in your clothing from it are the ones who know what to look for. By that point, you're probably already engaged.
My whole point is this; You have a concealed carry license because you feel the need to carry for defense. Why would you base the choice of the weapon you choose to defend your life with on price? Or other peoples' choices?
Wow. Never thought I'd be posting that on an LS1 site.
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Its like a lot of other people on here said. The best thing to do is to go to a gun shop where they can show you multiple brands and calibers. You need to make sure it fits your hand. Everybody has their perference to which is better, but everyone likes something different. I personally carry a SIG P239 .40 cal and i love it(7+1 mag). The thing with Sigs is that they are precision guns. You have to make sure you maintain it just like ur car. After i have been shooting at the range for a while, my sig likes to jam(after bout 100 rounds) If you are looking for something you dont have to worry about taking care of i would suggest a glock. I got a Glock 27 .40 cal(9+1 mag) and it is the gun i got that will shoot no matter what. The lady that owns the gun range i go to has a glock that is about 6 years old and has put about 10,000 rounds through it and hasn't cleaned it yet. It still shoots dead on. She is trying to find out how long it can go before it has to be cleaned. I prefer a .40 cal over a 9mm. I have heard of too many stories of someone surviving getting hit with a 9mm.
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IMO when the time comes for you to actually defend yourself you are going to be so jacked up and scared you want something that will be realiable and easy to use. With that being said a revolver is the best way to go, few moving parts, will always fire and in most cases you aren't going to be unloading 15 rounds at someone trying to kill or scare them away.
If you are dead set on a semi-auto get something that you are going to practice with A LOT so once again when the time comes it will be second nature and you won't have to worry about loading, chambering, multiple safeties, breaking your thumb on the slide, getting pinched, etc.
Caliber is up to you. You want something you can control and are used to firing so you are accurate and you don't have to spend a second or two trying to aim again if needed.
If you are dead set on a semi-auto get something that you are going to practice with A LOT so once again when the time comes it will be second nature and you won't have to worry about loading, chambering, multiple safeties, breaking your thumb on the slide, getting pinched, etc.
Caliber is up to you. You want something you can control and are used to firing so you are accurate and you don't have to spend a second or two trying to aim again if needed.
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IMO when the time comes for you to actually defend yourself you are going to be so jacked up and scared you want something that will be realiable and easy to use. With that being said a revolver is the best way to go, few moving parts, will always fire and in most cases you aren't going to be unloading 15 rounds at someone trying to kill or scare them away.
If you are dead set on a semi-auto get something that you are going to practice with A LOT so once again when the time comes it will be second nature and you won't have to worry about loading, chambering, multiple safeties, breaking your thumb on the slide, getting pinched, etc.
Caliber is up to you. You want something you can control and are used to firing so you are accurate and you don't have to spend a second or two trying to aim again if needed.
If you are dead set on a semi-auto get something that you are going to practice with A LOT so once again when the time comes it will be second nature and you won't have to worry about loading, chambering, multiple safeties, breaking your thumb on the slide, getting pinched, etc.
Caliber is up to you. You want something you can control and are used to firing so you are accurate and you don't have to spend a second or two trying to aim again if needed.
If you are "jacked up and scared" and "unloading 15 rounds at someone trying to kill or scare them away" in a gun fight, you will be on the **** end of the stick. I GUARANTEE you will either get yourself killed or kill someone you didn't mean to.
If you get your CCW and choose a weapon, you DAMN WELL better practice. Or you'll be as dangerous to yourself as you would be to anyone else. Get as much range time as you can and teach other family members (especially the children to disarm thier curiousity. Children are killed in firearms accidents because they were NEVER taught to respect them). When you aren't at the range, practice Isreali Point Shooting techniques without your weapon. Just like any other martial art, with enough practice, it will become instinctive.
As an American, it is your RIGHT to own a firearm. But it is your RESPONSIBILTY to know what you are doing with it.