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02-21-2009, 05:47 PM
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There's something wrong with me because I still wanted to get high everyday after stopping? Ok? What exactly is wrong with me doctor sense you know it all. Marijauna is not chemically addictive? Did you do an independent research and take 100 people and see what the effects were or did you take someone elses word like you told people above not to do?
I don't think it is chemically addictive however it is mentally addictive. I quit cold turkey and never took even one puff since I quit. However for the first few months I would think about it. Once you get into a daily ruteine and you do somthing everyday your mind wants to just keep doing what it's doing. You can't say there's nothing mentally addictive.
When you run outta pot and don't have money your *** starts tripping and you try to get ahold of your friend or whoever you can to get ahold of some more. Or you start scraping your pipe for reson, or you start looking for roaches. Don't sit here and bullshit like your high and mighty. I don't think there is anything wrong with it besides it's a demotivator.
Depending on what kinda work you do it could be a bad thing, would you want the doctor that's doing open heart surgery on you smokeing a fat *** dro blunt right before he cuts you open. If you say yes then your as big of a dumbass as I suspected..
I don't think it is chemically addictive however it is mentally addictive. I quit cold turkey and never took even one puff since I quit. However for the first few months I would think about it. Once you get into a daily ruteine and you do somthing everyday your mind wants to just keep doing what it's doing. You can't say there's nothing mentally addictive.
When you run outta pot and don't have money your *** starts tripping and you try to get ahold of your friend or whoever you can to get ahold of some more. Or you start scraping your pipe for reson, or you start looking for roaches. Don't sit here and bullshit like your high and mighty. I don't think there is anything wrong with it besides it's a demotivator.
Depending on what kinda work you do it could be a bad thing, would you want the doctor that's doing open heart surgery on you smokeing a fat *** dro blunt right before he cuts you open. If you say yes then your as big of a dumbass as I suspected..
I don't know how much more I can make that clear to you, it probably wouldn't help anyway if I could.
02-21-2009, 05:55 PM
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I'm not going to argue with you, you're clearly upset about something. There is nothing addictive about marijuana, end of the story. If you're "jonesing" for it after quiting, then yes, there's something wrong with you or something is wrong in your life. Let me say this again, marijuana is NOT addicting.
I don't know how much more I can make that clear to you, it probably wouldn't help anyway if I could.
I don't know how much more I can make that clear to you, it probably wouldn't help anyway if I could.
There's nothing chemically addictive about jacking off to **** but some ************* can't stop doing the **** if they wanted too....not addictive? Sex addicts? Plenty of addictions that don't have chemicals involved so to say that it's not mentally addictive is bullshit.
Just say it's not addicting to you..
02-21-2009, 08:17 PM
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I don't typically like to get into e-pissing matches but this one hits real close to home. I agree with blubox a million times over... I am fairly young and smoked daily for over five years but recently quit for a job. I still want to smoke, I dream about it at times, and would still be smoking if it wasn't for the my new job. While smoking I often carried a guilty conscience about what I was doing but still smoked every day... if that's not addiction I don't know what is.
There are definitely worse things out there, but to claim that weed is not addictive is ignorant as far as I am concerned. But since you know everything about everyone I guess I am wasting energy here...
02-21-2009, 09:14 PM
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No ego here at all, just tired of seeing people say things that aren't true. I never said I knew everything either, so please stop putting words in my mouth.
02-21-2009, 09:20 PM
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The only reason you felt guilty was because of the negative image that you've been fed your whole life. It's not an addiction at all. You wanted to do it again because you liked it, not because you craved/needed it. I'm sure your entire day wasn't about you thinking "I need to get high!"
No ego here at all, just tired of seeing people say things that aren't true. I never said I knew everything either, so please stop putting words in my mouth.
No ego here at all, just tired of seeing people say things that aren't true. I never said I knew everything either, so please stop putting words in my mouth.
Just because they like to do it doesn't mean they aren't going to lose everything doing it. There is no law stopping them. Nobody telling them how horrible it is, but I bet they live in hell knowing they're ruining their life.
Telling their wife they're are gonna stop. Promising to stay away from the casino. No chemical that makes them addicted but yet they're addicted like a mother ******. Same thing as weed.
02-21-2009, 09:27 PM
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As far as the addiction thing, I knew it wasn't good for me and rarely ever lead to anything positive but I still continued to use. I may not have "needed" it but I often have trouble sleeping without it and find myself myself a little pissed off for no reason other than than the fact that I am not high. There really is no reason in arguing on this matter... it definitely is not a chemically substance but like anything if you do it enough you are not going to want to let go of it. It doesn't matter what it is ANYTHING can be addictive and I would place weed on the higher end of the spectrum when talking about things that are so-called "not addictive".
02-21-2009, 09:28 PM
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I love to gamble. I don't want to do it every day. I don't feel bad when I gamble either.
Truth is, people can take anything to an extreme. Does that mean that what they're doing is bad? No. That means there's something wrong in their life or in their head.
Maybe the definition of addiction will help you realize the difference?
"The state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma."
Please take notice of what is bolded.
EDIT: I found a pretty concise write up on why marijuana is illegal, if you take the time to read it all then perhaps you'll see it differently. It's here.
If you can find something that says marijuana is addictive, I would love to see the source and the research they did to come to that conclusion. Until then, I'm done here.
Truth is, people can take anything to an extreme. Does that mean that what they're doing is bad? No. That means there's something wrong in their life or in their head.
Maybe the definition of addiction will help you realize the difference?
"The state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma."
Please take notice of what is bolded.
EDIT: I found a pretty concise write up on why marijuana is illegal, if you take the time to read it all then perhaps you'll see it differently. It's here.
If you can find something that says marijuana is addictive, I would love to see the source and the research they did to come to that conclusion. Until then, I'm done here.
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02-21-2009, 09:38 PM
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I love to gamble. I don't want to do it every day. I don't feel bad when I gamble either.
Truth is, people can take anything to an extreme. Does that mean that what they're doing is bad? No. That means there's something wrong in their life or in their head.
Maybe the definition of addiction will help you realize the difference?
"The state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma."
Please take notice of what is bolded.
Truth is, people can take anything to an extreme. Does that mean that what they're doing is bad? No. That means there's something wrong in their life or in their head.
Maybe the definition of addiction will help you realize the difference?
"The state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma."
Please take notice of what is bolded.
02-21-2009, 09:41 PM
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According to Merriam-Webster:
2: compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal ; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
Take notice of what is bolded
2: compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal ; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
Take notice of what is bolded
02-21-2009, 09:46 PM
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According to Merriam-Webster:
2: compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal ; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
Take notice of what is bolded
2: compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal ; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful
Take notice of what is bolded
Now find me something that says marijuana is harmful or habit forming so that your bolded emphasis makes sense.
Originally Posted by blubox
So give some examples of psychologically habit forming addictions...that cause severe trama?
I said I was done last post, now I am for sure.
02-21-2009, 09:56 PM
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Smoking anything is harmful, you would have to be an idiot to argue that fact. e.g. decreased lung capacity, increased risk for cancer, higher blood pressure, etc. I don't know of any regular user that doesn't smoke it therefore it is potentially harmful for anyone that uses it. You may be the one in a million case that slides by without any serious consequences but chances are very slim.
02-22-2009, 02:38 PM
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I recently heard a statistic that only about 5-10% of all people who smoke are mentally addicted. It all depends on the person's genetic makeup - everyone is different.
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02-23-2009, 12:46 PM
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well i came here to check tech tips for the vette, but i saw this so i thought i might as well post up.
i was on probation for 2 years, drug tests 2-3 times a week, and ive tried everything in the book... **** cleansers, urinary tract infection pills(azo's), niacin, bleach, certo...all to find out nothing works. i was able to cover up the dirtiness temporarily with azo's, but when it got sent to lab, i got busted... now if u give urself a weeks time, the cleansers u can buy at head shops will speed up the process, but you can do that for free by drinking water.
now the only way to pass a test whether it be a week or 1 day away, is water. and im not meaning a small amount of water, i literally nearly drowned myself with the amount of water i had to drink. key is to start drinkin water 5 hours before test, nonstop, im talkin like u need to **** 5 or 6 really good times, and take some vitamin b a couple hours before. which will dilute it, but...... most places like my job wont accept if its diluted, as this only worked for probation who werent sending off my tests to the lab right away.
so for the job where its gonna be sent to a lab, either abstinence or the # 1 is the way to go.
if you have a weeks notice you can completely clear urself of all toxins(very good to do occasionally btw) by ingesting over 200 ounces(really dependent on weight but thats a good average) of water a day, which will not just temporarily dilute but actually clean ur body completely. also very important to avoid sodas and other high sugary things as they work against you. exercise and saunas are helpful as well. I got this technique from my uncle who is in the military and gets randoms but they usually have a lil notice
now for the issue of weed being addictive, no it is not physically, but yes it is mentally addictive, along with everything else in life like driving my vette. is there any harm being done seems to be the lingering question, if u think smoking is really hurting your body, did u even consider that that big mac in your and hand is going to kill you wayyyy before pot ever does. and guess what, now they have this lil device called the vaporizer.... health worries are no more. motivation IS an issue, whether people say it is or not. its up to you whether u sit on the couch and smoke ur life away or be a productive pothead....
i was on probation for 2 years, drug tests 2-3 times a week, and ive tried everything in the book... **** cleansers, urinary tract infection pills(azo's), niacin, bleach, certo...all to find out nothing works. i was able to cover up the dirtiness temporarily with azo's, but when it got sent to lab, i got busted... now if u give urself a weeks time, the cleansers u can buy at head shops will speed up the process, but you can do that for free by drinking water.
now the only way to pass a test whether it be a week or 1 day away, is water. and im not meaning a small amount of water, i literally nearly drowned myself with the amount of water i had to drink. key is to start drinkin water 5 hours before test, nonstop, im talkin like u need to **** 5 or 6 really good times, and take some vitamin b a couple hours before. which will dilute it, but...... most places like my job wont accept if its diluted, as this only worked for probation who werent sending off my tests to the lab right away.
so for the job where its gonna be sent to a lab, either abstinence or the # 1 is the way to go.
if you have a weeks notice you can completely clear urself of all toxins(very good to do occasionally btw) by ingesting over 200 ounces(really dependent on weight but thats a good average) of water a day, which will not just temporarily dilute but actually clean ur body completely. also very important to avoid sodas and other high sugary things as they work against you. exercise and saunas are helpful as well. I got this technique from my uncle who is in the military and gets randoms but they usually have a lil notice
now for the issue of weed being addictive, no it is not physically, but yes it is mentally addictive, along with everything else in life like driving my vette. is there any harm being done seems to be the lingering question, if u think smoking is really hurting your body, did u even consider that that big mac in your and hand is going to kill you wayyyy before pot ever does. and guess what, now they have this lil device called the vaporizer.... health worries are no more. motivation IS an issue, whether people say it is or not. its up to you whether u sit on the couch and smoke ur life away or be a productive pothead....
