Think of it this way, to keep it simple. You use the first 1/4 mile just to get up to speed to where you do have traction. Sort of like roll racing, but starting at 150+ mph. Beyond 200 mph, few cars could complain about traction issues when using the proper tires. The M/T drag radials have shown they are useless POS tires beyond 200 mph, they like to spin on the wheels and blow up. They weren't designed for 25+ seconds at high mph on hot asphalt.

If you'd quit arguing and just learn and pay attention to what has been posted, you'd end up a little wiser here. Plenty of mile experience above.

 

Don't they have a better COD than a Z06? Not saying they are a mile killer, but calling them a brick in terms of aero might be a little....close-minded.

 

Coefficient of drag might be a little lower than the Vette, but the frontal area is quite a bit more (wider and taller). Drag area (frontal area x Cd)is what's important in land speed racing. This is why Supras do so well in the Mile. Their Cd is around .30, but their frontal area is really small (because they're so narrow). FD RX7s also have small frontal area and can go faster with less horsepower than Corvettes and GT-Rs.

 

once again robie doesnt have a clue what he is talking about. [face palm]

the mile IS NOT A DRAG RACE!!! it is a competition for the highest speed... not the lowest time.

 

i never said it was a drag race,

maybe if you would stop putting words in my mouth and read my statements as a whole and not form an opinion based off of a couple of sentences, you would understand my ideology


im simply using the same ideology as Hennessey Performance Engineering,...... they tried for a record and tuned down the power

why would they turn down the power when trying for a record???

because of traction!!!




im using the exact ideology as Hennessey, if you're saying im wrong, then you're also saying Hennessey is wrong as well




i think we should all agree to disagree



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IIRC MT said discard tires after 3 runs. LMR blew there tires on the second run.

 

Your continued stupidity on such a vast array of subjects boggles my mind.

 

dont get mad,...... we can disagree but nobody has to get upset and try to get in a verbal jab or insult...... all that shows is immaturity

i dont lose any sleep over words typed on a computer screen


i could get all mad too, i could say i bet you have little man syndrome and thats why you're mad all the time, i could say i bet you got big ***** and a small dick so it looks like a whistle...... and tell you to find some girl to blow on your lil whistle so you can calm down and not get upset over other peoples opinion

but im not gonna do that, that would be immature and dumb for a grown man to waste his time typing verbal jabs at another man on the internet......



but seriously though, once the car is at 200mph traction finally isnt an issue and thats when these cars can use all of their power

BUT you have to realize that you're going roughly 300ft per second AND your at the halfway mark already...... so that last half of the mile is going to go by real fast meaning you will only have a few seconds of being able to use 1800rwhp


IF you could get better traction you could get up to 200mph sooner, THAT being said you could give it full throttle sooner, THAT being said you could have a second or two more time at full throttle


i know a second or two doesn't sound like alot but with 1800hp you can rack up some mph in those extra seconds that you wouldn't get if you didnt have the traction to do so


anyways, if yall dont get ideology that Hennessey and I share than we can agree to disagree, no butthurt guys come on





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I'm not mad in the least, you provide quality entertainment for when I'm bored at work. I'm married with a kid so I'm not to worried about my ***** size and at 6' I'm not exactly a little fella, besides the fact that you don't know me. I was simply citing how you continue the theme of stupidity and never cave even when fact is presented to counter your pure conjecture. Numerous people in this thread have cited why you're wrong but you maintain through your brain that you're theory(thats all it is) is greater than actual real world fact. Intelligence is the ability to learn, generally real world experience is a good enough source to prove ones point, obviously you are lacking in that department since you still refuse to concede that people with real mile experience know more than you.

I hope you continue to post your almost unintelligible ramblings, with absolutely horrid paragraph structure. It's fun watching people tear you apart.

FYI I wouldn't admit to being associated with hennessey in thought process or in the real world

 

did you even watch the video? they said they're taking power out to go faster simply because of traction


i would bet you money that if we get the LMR techs on here they would tell you that they have an 1800rwhp car BUT they cannot use all the power in the mile because or traction


do you realize how much hp 1800rwhp is??? on 2 freaking street tires???


that car isnt hitting the barrier between power and air turbulence...... its got so much power that its like driving on ice, they have to feather the throttle EVEN at high speeds



more than likely an LMR tech's wont get on here and say that im right, say that they aren't having power issues and its traction issues and IF they had more traction they would go faster


they wont say that because they sponsor this forum and the co-founder that says im wrong and disagreed with me on the traction issue saying traction isnt the problem they just hit the limit with the power and air turbulence....


while i agree that there is a power/air turbulence limit...... i dont agree LMR hit that limit simply because they have 1800rwhp to 2 street tires...... maybe nineball is basing that opinion because he ran his vette at the mile with probably less than half the rwhp the lmr car has........ and he had it floored for 3/4 of the mile giving it everything its got so his mindset is thinking that he had it floored giving it all it had and it wouldn't go much faster and would slowly gain mph because he was reaching that limit of power to wind turbulence....... but thats a different story with addition of over twice the amount of torque and hp



but guess what, you dont see them coming on here disagreeing with me either, do you???


since the beginning this whole thread has been about the mile and in particularly LMR since post #9 and not once has anyone from LMR chime in to shoot me down and tell me im wrong...... and until they do its just opinions over opinions...... your gonna have yours and im gonna have mine...... but i do base my opinion from statements Hennessey techs have said





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Their name gets thrown in the mud enough around here why would they jump in on something that's already been taken care of?

Point blank, the ugr cars have awd and plenty of power and have tried it both ways with no real discernable difference so they take it easier on the hard parts with a softer launch. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

do you like biscuits?

in particular kfc biscuits?


i think im gonna get some of their mouth watering mashed potatoes and biscuits for lunch today...... and their honey bbq snacker, maybe two.....






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I've got my wifes homemade habenaro chili with sweet cornbread so I'm good

 

If Hennessy could control their power they wouldn't need to tune it down.

What everyone is telling you is that it doesn't matter if you baby the launch or launch like a drag racer. the speed of the vehicle at the end of the track will not be effected.

seeing as though the launch does not matter then you would come to the conclusion that AWD DOES NOT HELP IN THE MILE.

Once again the reason you can not process that in your head is because you keep thinking about drag racing.

 

Sweet!

did she pack it in a lil Hulk Hogan lunchbox and thermos, blow your little whistle and send you on your way?





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Wrong, simply because of time

the sooner you are up to speed the sooner you can use full boost


if your traction allows you to reach full boost at the 4,000 ft mark then you only have 1,280 ft left to go at full boost which isn't very much time at that speed to rack up mph


BUT


if your traction allows you to reach full boost at the 3,000 ft mark then you have 2,280 ft left to go at full boost...... a 1,000 ft more time at full boost which would equate to more mph


unless, the car doesn't continue to accelerate...... then its hitting the power/air turbulence barrier....... but i do not think LMR hit that barrier, i believe their car had the power to go faster but didnt have the time or traction to do so





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Nope it was just in a glad container, I don't need anything fancy as long as the food is good and it is

 

time is not an issue. Only speed is.

For example. with 330hp and 340trq my car ran the quarter mile in 12.3sec @ 112 MPH. I launched my car as hard as i could without breaking traction so that i could clear the track with in the least amount of time. On that same day in the same car I had babied the car out of the whole. I ran a 12.5 @ 112mph. The speed of my car at the finish line was not effected by my launch. The only thing effected by my launch was the time it took me to get down the track.

 

If Hennesey was in hear posting that LMR couldnt do what they could do then LMR would no doubt be in here responding to them.

However when some random internet forum guy is in here posting that LMR doesnt know what they are doing then they simply ignore it. If LMR responded to every Joe Shmoe that made dumb statements on internet forums they would never have time to build record holding cars.

 

I was just here watching the show and someone just had to up and make me hungry... thanks