http://blog.amsperformance.com/2011/...-the-alpha-12/


i would love to see what this car would do in the standing mile


i've seen the lsx builds @ 1500+rwhp but they baby them out of the hole and take off slower than a moms minivan........

with all wheel drive, drag radials on all fours and griping that hot Texas concrete i could see this being the king of the mile





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would like to see a attempt at it

 

You post this as if no other high hp awd cars (let alone gtr's) have been to the mile...

 

That's pretty cool, moving the bar up for the gt-r's

 

LOL"Only 35 psi", that is not exactly low boost.

 

Ive seen a supra trapping over 170 run right at 230 in the mile so I doubt that GTR would come anywhere close.

 

It will be fast but it will NOT take the title of King of the Mile. The GTR's Gearing, lack of horsepower and AWD are all negatives for the mile events.

 

I'm not saying its going to be taking the throne but lack of horsepower? It's got 1300whp...awd aren't the gallardo's awd and they seem to do quite well in the mile

How's the weight in this car? What's the gearing like in these cars? Be interesting to see it run. It should hit over 200 easily, but the throne is a different story.

 

LMR has a 1800rwhp camaro SS that makes that car look silly. It went over 230mph in the mile on 20" street tires on half boost finally getting on it WOT in 3rd gear.

 

This is the Texas section.

 

no its not exactly "low" but its capable of being north of 50psi which i think would put down 1700whp



hearing things like "that run was only half boost" or "i didn't give it full throttle til the halfway mark"


all that talk is just giving the false impression that they could do better but they didn't....... or they're trying to say they just have too much power and cant utilize all the power they have therefore they have to "take it easy"

all that is excuses and he said, she said, i thought we matured past that playground talk in elementary school

it doesn't matter if they made a car with 1800rwhp or 2800rwhp...... if they cant put the power to the pavement then all they have is bragging rights at the dyno.....


there is no doubt i have much respect for the beast of lsx cars LMR produces

but, in my opinion whats the point in having power that you cant use??? hell, you could put an 8,000hp top fuel engine in a camaro but if you cant use the power then whats the point? dyno bragging rights?...... watching these 1500rwhp cars take off going 0-60 slower than a stock ford focus gets depressing.......

i think an awd car with 1500whp would be able to take advantage of every inch of that mile...... it would get more traction and be able to give more throttle getting up to speed quicker in able to give it full throttle much sooner utilizing those critical seconds when the mile marker is coming to an end.......


i think about it like this, if you can get out of the hole quicker AND you can get complete traction to give full throttle sooner than thats a huge advantage...... 1500whp can rack up some mph when they are using all of the 1500whp sooner and longer






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No offense, but that seems like a bit of playground talk right there. Whether you're bragging about having 1800hp or bragging about having AWD, the only thing that matters is what your top speed is in a one mile standing race (for the purposes of this conversation). Why does it matter how fast you get to 60mph? If the take off bores you, move farther down the track.

 

Lol at talking **** about LMR making excuses just after making a ricer claim about how much power a car (which he knows VERY little about) could make at X psi.

This thread fails...

 

Robbie, have you ever ran the mile?

It isn't drag racing. You don't need to "use every inch" of the mile. The record holders rarely take off fast, as numerous runs have shown minimal gains by taking off fast. Maybe half of 1 mph difference at the end. Why? Wind resistance. It increases exponentially the faster you go. That is the hard part to overcome, not using every inch of 1 mile. AWD doesn't help at all here. Most of these cars are finding their terminal velocity before the finish line, just based on wind vs power. Nothing exciting happens the first half mile.

 

By lack of hp I mean it's not makling the 1,500+ hp that some of the Gallardo's, Vipers and Supra's are making. IIRC, many of those Gallardos that are hitting 240+ mph are converted to rwd for the mile races.

 

umm..... lol read the article you posted. it clearly says they were having traction problems and keep in mind thats at a prepped drag strip so what makes you believe they would be would be able to hook so well on a unprepped surface

and im pretty sure 244mph out of the camaro is using some hp. i doubt that gtr will come close to that speed.

 

I would like to add that I believe that the only reason lmr ran the 20s was because they either didn't have a spare after breaking the race rim, or they couldn't find the right size tire for the rim. They ran their 20 inch show wheels for the heck of it which were on a street pirelli. I remember this cuz I ride 20 daily and they say you can't b fast.on dubs.

 

The AMS car is pretty damn sick! But the Lambo guys, for example, are making 500-600 more hp at the rear tires. Doesn't matter though the AWD system is what hurts a lot of them, because when one of the 4 tires that's spinning hooks the car goes the opposite direction (and usually does not end up good). I talked to the owner of a few UGR cars (I think 2 of his Gallardos are the #1 and #2 highest HP ones (1930 and 18XXrwhp). He said they went a slowest of 239 on low 20psi area, but traction was killing them. Also keeping IAT's cold is some what of an issue with that much power (and doing it for an extended period of time).

We will have to see what comes of it though. SW's Supra went 247 with less than 1300rwhp, but the Orange Lambo (250mph that wrecked) was at 1500+rwhp. Power doesn't always make you win, as Tony said there are plenty of other factors with it.

 

Leo...I'm pretty sure that most of the gallardos that ugr builds stay awd...they don't pull the front shaft to make it rwd for the mile

 

Obviously its not drag racing..LMR thought they could just put one of their drag motor in with a 6speed and go kick everyone's *** at the mile when they first showed up..