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Old 08-18-2012, 10:35 AM
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I have seen this before on other carfax reports but how bad or does it effect the car? Im asking cause im looking at a cts-v thats located at Bonham Chrysler and it also says "corporate fleet" for first owner....

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...14875226&Log=0

Thoughts? Its an hour away so i wanna make sure its worth my time.
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Damn it appears as though m&m auto just put in random miles --- 900, 1000, 1100, 1200.

I personally try to stay away from fleet/rental cars.
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Originally Posted by Donohue96M6Z28
Damn it appears as though m&m auto just put in random miles --- 900, 1000, 1100, 1200.

I personally try to stay away from fleet/rental cars.
Are you saying that cause it may have had 20+ individuals driving it like crap?
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Originally Posted by 99CamVanillaTop
Are you saying that cause it may have had 20+ individuals driving it like crap?
Yeah, it's just tough to know how it was treated.
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Originally Posted by Donohue96M6Z28
Yeah, it's just tough to know how it was treated.
Well my other thought was maybe it was a assigned to a specific individual, and how would the dealership you work at go about appraising it? Theres two other v's im considering 1 is asking too much imo, the others in Houston which is 3 hours away from Dallas.
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Happens all the time. Usually these oil change shops (jiffy lube) and sometimes dealerships do it. Its mainly from typing to fast or fat fingering while typing... Dealership/car lot can contact carfax and they will correct it. Looks like this lot was taking mileage off the trip and rounding off the numbers. Sounds shady...
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My wife and I were looking at this exact car....Well, I say looking but soon as I told light gray interior..it was a no go. She wants ebony.


Just looked at the Carfax...2 tires mounted...2 tires mounted...alignment checked? wonder if someone was doing burnouts in that thing?
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GM's History on vehicle below






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Order Type: 81 - DEALER USED CAR (CVMS USE)
Field Actions: 0 Open


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131 MILL STREET
LIBERTY NY 12754-2017
8452923500 Authorization Code:

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Job Card Date: 10/28/2010 Job Card Number: 14724
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Job Card Date: 05/14/2009 Job Card Number: 206264
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Appears to be a GM Reps car...from the delivery information below..Probably a Zone Manager in the New York area...





Vehicle Information
VIN: 1G6DN57P190163274 Model: 6DN69-2009 CADILLAC CTS-V
Service Contract: No Branded Title: No Warranty Block: Yes PDI Status: No
Order Type: 81 - DEALER USED CAR (CVMS USE)
Field Actions: 0 Open


Invoice Information
Invoicing Service Agent: 132839


Invoice Date: 07/25/2011



Ship to Information
Ship to Service Agent: 111165
FULTON CHEVROLET-CADILLAC CO INC.
5216 ROUTE 17M
MIDDLETOWN NY 10940-0000 8453433184 Ship to Date: N/A



Delivery Information
Delivery Service Agent: . Delivery Date: N/A
Delivery Type:
Delivery Odometer: 0



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Invoicing Service Agent: 165940
GENERAL MOTORS COMPANY
7111 E.11 MILE ROAD
WARREN MI 48092-2709 In Service Date: 04/15/2009
In Service Type: 0007
In Service Odometer: 0
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Wierd ****, doesnt really bother me to much, but def makes me wonder.
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heres another

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...27805506&Log=0

I woulda jumped on a 2011 that was fully loaded for 45k a few weeks ago but by the time my loan amount go approved that bitch was sold.
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IMO it is pretty clear from the CarFax that the M&M people have just been entering random mileage numbers in Aug-Oct 2010 as suddenly the miles jump from 1200 to 7K+ in just a week.

I, personally, wouldn't let the just the mileage inconsistency alone be a deciding factor.
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Originally Posted by 99CamVanillaTop
Well my other thought was maybe it was a assigned to a specific individual, and how would the dealership you work at go about appraising it? Theres two other v's im considering 1 is asking too much imo, the others in Houston which is 3 hours away from Dallas.
A few different ways. Auctions/bookouts, I don't think the mileage inconsistency will effect it much. If you find a clean one a few hrs away for a decent price it may be worth the drive.

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