Market on F-bodys these days
07-11-2013, 03:59 PM
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Third gens are on the rise, it's making me and my third gen lovers angry. Was plenty of them for under 1K, now the junk boxes are 2000 up. T
Deals still pop up, but it's not getting better. The 4th gen are a plenty, third gens are becoming more rare with slews of them crushed. I remember when 2nd gens were dirt cheap and a 1st gen could be had for 4-7k running. It is just how it goes.
Deals still pop up, but it's not getting better. The 4th gen are a plenty, third gens are becoming more rare with slews of them crushed. I remember when 2nd gens were dirt cheap and a 1st gen could be had for 4-7k running. It is just how it goes.
07-11-2013, 08:42 PM
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Third gens are on the rise, it's making me and my third gen lovers angry. Was plenty of them for under 1K, now the junk boxes are 2000 up. T
Deals still pop up, but it's not getting better. The 4th gen are a plenty, third gens are becoming more rare with slews of them crushed. I remember when 2nd gens were dirt cheap and a 1st gen could be had for 4-7k running. It is just how it goes.
Deals still pop up, but it's not getting better. The 4th gen are a plenty, third gens are becoming more rare with slews of them crushed. I remember when 2nd gens were dirt cheap and a 1st gen could be had for 4-7k running. It is just how it goes.
Oh here is my 1988 IROC
07-11-2013, 09:04 PM
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I have 3 dif sets of rims posted up with 315s out back with tires all the way around at $950 each set & no bites.
I have a ton of foxbody 5.0 parts from Crane 1.7 Rockers to H-Pipe with Flows & a couple different sets of stock rims & tires posted at $200 to $450 depending on set & I am not even getting that many low ball texts like I normally do. People are Broke and have no money. Scary thing is that it makes me wonder is this a sign of our econmey taking a down turn? I just cant remember people not buying like this in a long time
I have a ton of foxbody 5.0 parts from Crane 1.7 Rockers to H-Pipe with Flows & a couple different sets of stock rims & tires posted at $200 to $450 depending on set & I am not even getting that many low ball texts like I normally do. People are Broke and have no money. Scary thing is that it makes me wonder is this a sign of our econmey taking a down turn? I just cant remember people not buying like this in a long time
07-12-2013, 02:39 AM
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SEB, I've never had a nice Iroc that I kept, but always wanted a B4C, just got one last year. Don't think I'll sell it once it is running. That's a nice ride you have, but I avoid t tops at all cost. If I ever have one as a show car out of bad weather, I'll get a t top.
Have seen 4th gens so cheap it would be worth buying just to swap the drive line to something else. Which happens allot.(ls1). Hate the LT1 cars. The engines anyway.
Have seen 4th gens so cheap it would be worth buying just to swap the drive line to something else. Which happens allot.(ls1). Hate the LT1 cars. The engines anyway.
07-12-2013, 10:13 AM
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Here's what's going on:
7 owner, worn out, ragged to **** LS1 fbody's can be had for $4000-6000 these days, so people think that a "nice" LS1 fbody should be around $8,000-9,000 tops. Now, when you get super clean low mile examples, 1 owner cars, ect and people ask $12-15k for them, people have the mindset that "hyuck, I can get an Ellis Juan for like $4,000-that's way overpriced"
People look at a car that has been driven by 4 different high school kids with 170,000 miles with a broke to **** center console lids, ripped-*** leather seats, cracked-to-hell door panels and dash pads, stained carpet, bubbling a-pillar, blown speakers, fogged-over headlights, mismatched tires, Jeff's custom "true duel" straight pipes, with a dirty K&N filter on a car that's never been in a garage, and think "gee, an immaculate 2 owner 30,000 mile SS car should only be a couple more thousand than this."
Don't even get me started on how this effects the price of LT1 cars. People would rather pay $6,000-7,000 for an LS1 car that's on a bloody stub of what used to be its last leg than pay $4,000 for an extremely clean low mile LT1 car.
7 owner, worn out, ragged to **** LS1 fbody's can be had for $4000-6000 these days, so people think that a "nice" LS1 fbody should be around $8,000-9,000 tops. Now, when you get super clean low mile examples, 1 owner cars, ect and people ask $12-15k for them, people have the mindset that "hyuck, I can get an Ellis Juan for like $4,000-that's way overpriced"
People look at a car that has been driven by 4 different high school kids with 170,000 miles with a broke to **** center console lids, ripped-*** leather seats, cracked-to-hell door panels and dash pads, stained carpet, bubbling a-pillar, blown speakers, fogged-over headlights, mismatched tires, Jeff's custom "true duel" straight pipes, with a dirty K&N filter on a car that's never been in a garage, and think "gee, an immaculate 2 owner 30,000 mile SS car should only be a couple more thousand than this."
Don't even get me started on how this effects the price of LT1 cars. People would rather pay $6,000-7,000 for an LS1 car that's on a bloody stub of what used to be its last leg than pay $4,000 for an extremely clean low mile LT1 car.
07-12-2013, 02:24 PM
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Market for these cars has been over inflated for years it's only starting to come back to a normal level for a 11+ year old used car as of late. You can buy a waay newer and lower mileage GTO or 5.0 for what some people are trying to get for these cars.
07-12-2013, 03:10 PM
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Here's what's going on:
7 owner, worn out, ragged to **** LS1 fbody's can be had for $4000-6000 these days, so people think that a "nice" LS1 fbody should be around $8,000-9,000 tops. Now, when you get super clean low mile examples, 1 owner cars, ect and people ask $12-15k for them, people have the mindset that "hyuck, I can get an Ellis Juan for like $4,000-that's way overpriced"
People look at a car that has been driven by 4 different high school kids with 170,000 miles with a broke to **** center console lids, ripped-*** leather seats, cracked-to-hell door panels and dash pads, stained carpet, bubbling a-pillar, blown speakers, fogged-over headlights, mismatched tires, Jeff's custom "true duel" straight pipes, with a dirty K&N filter on a car that's never been in a garage, and think "gee, an immaculate 2 owner 30,000 mile SS car should only be a couple more thousand than this."
Don't even get me started on how this effects the price of LT1 cars. People would rather pay $6,000-7,000 for an LS1 car that's on a bloody stub of what used to be its last leg than pay $4,000 for an extremely clean low mile LT1 car.
7 owner, worn out, ragged to **** LS1 fbody's can be had for $4000-6000 these days, so people think that a "nice" LS1 fbody should be around $8,000-9,000 tops. Now, when you get super clean low mile examples, 1 owner cars, ect and people ask $12-15k for them, people have the mindset that "hyuck, I can get an Ellis Juan for like $4,000-that's way overpriced"
People look at a car that has been driven by 4 different high school kids with 170,000 miles with a broke to **** center console lids, ripped-*** leather seats, cracked-to-hell door panels and dash pads, stained carpet, bubbling a-pillar, blown speakers, fogged-over headlights, mismatched tires, Jeff's custom "true duel" straight pipes, with a dirty K&N filter on a car that's never been in a garage, and think "gee, an immaculate 2 owner 30,000 mile SS car should only be a couple more thousand than this."
Don't even get me started on how this effects the price of LT1 cars. People would rather pay $6,000-7,000 for an LS1 car that's on a bloody stub of what used to be its last leg than pay $4,000 for an extremely clean low mile LT1 car.
07-13-2013, 01:41 AM
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I got my 02 SOM WS6 about a month ago for $8200. Car has 73,000 miles on it and is pretty stock minus 4.10 gears that are getting replaced because they were screaming and a SLP loudmouth catback. The car had about $200 worth of miscellanious stuff that needed fixed mostly on the interior. I have to polish the paint and wet sand a few scratches but the car is in good shape overall.
07-13-2013, 01:30 PM
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Well in my opinion at least in my area people prefer makin a truck in to a race car, old or new doesn't matter. I'm thinking is the culture. Gas prices need to go down, but I still find people driving nice cars like brand new vw, BMW , Audi, chevy, plus the average random cars on the road. Besides economy having ups and downs mainly comes to what people like.
07-13-2013, 01:40 PM
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I usually go by private party value. Mine comes back @ a little over 8k even with 120k miles. Then all the new parts on the car along with all the mods done just last summer it would be insane for me to sell it for 8k. That's why its worth more to keep because I know I will not get what I want.
07-13-2013, 03:05 PM
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Just as a comparison NADA says:
2002 WS6 coupe w/80k
Trade in: $9125
Retail: $12,650
2002 Grand Prix GT w/80k
Trade in:$3925
Retail: $6425
Obviously the Grand Prix has no effect on the price of the TA- but I wanted to compare it to an average daily driver. The TA (per NADA) is worth double the Grand Prix and they were probably 5k apart in price. So compared to the average car they are holding their value better.
Just a comparison - nothing more
2002 WS6 coupe w/80k
Trade in: $9125
Retail: $12,650
2002 Grand Prix GT w/80k
Trade in:$3925
Retail: $6425
Obviously the Grand Prix has no effect on the price of the TA- but I wanted to compare it to an average daily driver. The TA (per NADA) is worth double the Grand Prix and they were probably 5k apart in price. So compared to the average car they are holding their value better.
Just a comparison - nothing more
07-13-2013, 06:23 PM
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1965, thanks. The difference is desirability, absolutely. I mean, is anyone really LOOKING for an old *** grand prix? Because there are a decent amount of us knuckle heads looking for these f-bodies still. The OP asked about why prices are so low, but as you say prices for these cars are higher than average. They arent old enough to appreciate, but their depreciation rates are certainly lower than average. Of course there are newer, faster cars available for the same coin, but that doesnt mean we necessarily like them. A newer Mustang? No thanks. Im sure its a better car, but it does nothing for me passion wise when I look at it. And no offense to anyone, but same thing with new style GTO's. We dont always shop for the best bang for the buck, more often than not our hearts lead the way. Also, the mystique the cars these had when new will kep prices up. Old school muscle cars were pretty much slow by comparison, but the market keeps prices strong because they have that mystique. Our cars were king of the hill, the bad asses of the day and that will always keep desirability and prices strong. Right now there are tons of rats out there, Thats obvious and logical. The same thing happened with 69 Camaros and 72 Chevelles. We are in that in between phase.
You know whats interesting? I have a 2013 Golf R - it is an amazing car. But its a DD and honestly hasnt been washed in months because if I have spare time to wash a car, its gonna be the TA, not the VW or my truck. I am a slave to my TA that sits in a garage and never sees rain. I wouldnt have it any other way.
1965, thanks. The difference is desirability, absolutely. I mean, is anyone really LOOKING for an old *** grand prix? Because there are a decent amount of us knuckle heads looking for these f-bodies still. The OP asked about why prices are so low, but as you say prices for these cars are higher than average. They arent old enough to appreciate, but their depreciation rates are certainly lower than average. Of course there are newer, faster cars available for the same coin, but that doesnt mean we necessarily like them. A newer Mustang? No thanks. Im sure its a better car, but it does nothing for me passion wise when I look at it. And no offense to anyone, but same thing with new style GTO's. We dont always shop for the best bang for the buck, more often than not our hearts lead the way. Also, the mystique the cars these had when new will kep prices up. Old school muscle cars were pretty much slow by comparison, but the market keeps prices strong because they have that mystique. Our cars were king of the hill, the bad asses of the day and that will always keep desirability and prices strong. Right now there are tons of rats out there, Thats obvious and logical. The same thing happened with 69 Camaros and 72 Chevelles. We are in that in between phase.
You know whats interesting? I have a 2013 Golf R - it is an amazing car. But its a DD and honestly hasnt been washed in months because if I have spare time to wash a car, its gonna be the TA, not the VW or my truck. I am a slave to my TA that sits in a garage and never sees rain. I wouldnt have it any other way.
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07-13-2013, 11:57 PM
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My daughter and I were on our way south heading out of sa back to grandmas after seeing a movie. Saw a bone stock 97 LT1 car in beautiful shape little outside of floresville even had the factory exhaust on it. The LS' makes more power but the SBC has that just right exhaust note that sounds so good.