550/620 N/A From a 302 Ford?
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550/620 N/A From a 302 Ford? I was just at the local auto parts looking for some fuses when I overheard some guys talking about a mustang. I just asked a couple of questions about the car to kill time and the guy said he had a ‘special’ engine built that makes 550/620 at the wheels through an automatic. I then asked how many cubes and he said it was a 302 taken out .030 with stock stroke.
He says it’s just heads and cam, full boltons so whatever.
This sounds like total BS to me, what do you think?
He says it’s just heads and cam, full boltons so whatever.
This sounds like total BS to me, what do you think?
Originally Posted by jermstyle
I was just at the local auto parts looking for some fuses when I overheard some guys talking about a mustang. I just asked a couple of questions about the car to kill time and the guy said he had a ‘special’ engine built that makes 550/620 at the wheels through an automatic. I then asked how many cubes and he said it was a 302 taken out .030 with stock stroke.
He says it’s just heads and cam, full boltons so whatever.
This sounds like total BS to me, what do you think?
He says it’s just heads and cam, full boltons so whatever.
This sounds like total BS to me, what do you think?
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yea.. not sure.. I don't want to be a punk and call BS on it. But a H/C LS1 will max out at 460 torque N/A unless you build a flat out race engine. So how can a engine with 44 less cubes make so much more torque?
The only thing I thought of is looking at the stroke of that engine. The 302 might be all stroke.
The only thing I thought of is looking at the stroke of that engine. The 302 might be all stroke.
It's bullshit, unless he's got gas on the car and forgot to mention it.
Your average heads/cam/intake "302" or "306" makes around 285-310rwhp. I don't see him gaining 200rwhp w/ some kind of different setup, unless there's nitrous or a blower involved.
Your average heads/cam/intake "302" or "306" makes around 285-310rwhp. I don't see him gaining 200rwhp w/ some kind of different setup, unless there's nitrous or a blower involved.
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all motor 306....
it would have to be on race gas, the craziest yates heads, braswell carb, fully ported victor intake or something of that sort, and the best of the best internals to make the perfect combination to get that much power.
i know nascar motors are making 150 more hp then that, and that is with a 358 cu in motor and all that other ****..
i say BS. if he said it was a stroked 351 doing that on pump gas... i could see that happening!
it would have to be on race gas, the craziest yates heads, braswell carb, fully ported victor intake or something of that sort, and the best of the best internals to make the perfect combination to get that much power.
i know nascar motors are making 150 more hp then that, and that is with a 358 cu in motor and all that other ****..
i say BS. if he said it was a stroked 351 doing that on pump gas... i could see that happening!
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Originally Posted by ross87t
It's bullshit, unless he's got gas on the car and forgot to mention it.
Your average heads/cam/intake "302" or "306" makes around 285-310rwhp. I don't see him gaining 200rwhp w/ some kind of different setup, unless there's nitrous or a blower involved.
Your average heads/cam/intake "302" or "306" makes around 285-310rwhp. I don't see him gaining 200rwhp w/ some kind of different setup, unless there's nitrous or a blower involved.
Carbed and only a 306 my friend's stang makes deep into the 400s through an auto and runs 11.0s on slicks and race gas. I'd say there is definately something he's not saying if he is making that kind of power.
Mabey it's a 302 based block. If it's true I'd sure like to see it. I know my 306 aint making that much power on the motor. 
The 302 motor has been around for A LONG time, so they have had many years to become familiar with and find the combinintions that work, unlike the LS1.
But 550 hp is still a tad unbelievable, but more torque than hp sounds like a nitrous setup to me......especially making 600 lb/ft of torque and only 550 hp.
But 550 hp is still a tad unbelievable, but more torque than hp sounds like a nitrous setup to me......especially making 600 lb/ft of torque and only 550 hp.
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Combination YOU JUST GOTTA HAVE THE RIGHT COMBO. YES THAT IS ALOT OF POWER AND NO IT'S NOT TOO MUCH EITHER. IT'S EASY YOU JUST GOTTA HAVE THE COMBINATION. JUST LIKE MY BROTHER STEPHEN'S CAR, JUST THE RIGHT SET UP. LIVIN ON THE EDGE IS WHATS ITS ALL ABOUT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DISAGREE GO TO THIS SITE. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WON'T BELEAVE ME, AND READ ABOUT JUST ONE OF THESE PITIFUL 302 FORDS CAN BE. EXCUSE ME I'M SORRY THIS ONE WAS BORED .030 OVER, NOT STROKED, JUST BORED. SO THAT MAKES IT 306 CUBES.AND THAT SAD THING IS THAT THEY ONLY COST HALF THE PRICE OF A LS1 WITH THE SAME HORSEPOWER. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR COMPETION BOYS, BECAUSE THEY JUST MIGHT SUPRISE YOU. THANKS
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