So sending 48,000 troops into the region is not helping?

 

I am not saying the Government is not helping now..Everyone is doing what they can, but the reason for my first post is why did it take so long to provide food and water to these people? That is what I am frustrated at. There is no excuse as to why it took as long as it did.

I know people are doing everything they can do to get the job done. But The government should have realized that they needed help earlier, got the military involved and provided people with what is needed.

 

I am not being "Unkind hearted" you guys are basiclly sitting here saying they are not doing anything at all and that they are just letting people die! Which is wrong people are over there bustin their asses to help people out and get the out to food and water and make sure they dont get tuberculosis, and disentary(spelling) and any other disgusting horrible virus? I am simply stating people whether it be goverment officals, volunteers or someone else, are over there doing what they can to help! Radio stations and new channels and many others are lending out the helping hand to the refugees that are coming to our city by holding fund raisers and doing what they can to help out. I just think what he is saying is wrong and he is acting as though everyone is in humane and not doing anything to help when people clearly are. Thats all.

 

I'm not try to turn this thread into a pissing match, Yes sending 48,000 troops is a start but the issue is they aren't there yet...

 

my opinion lies somewhere in the middle, although upset that we didn't get to the situation sooner, and are losing lives, there are complications in doing so, it's not just like snapping your fingers and we're able to aid everybody in need, there are certain aspects that inhibit our ability to help, such as looters/criminals armed and insane enough to essentially do whatever to survive, or whatever their goal is, i'm quite unsure


however, this NOT a state problem, this is a FEDERAL problem, FEMA is a federal group with federal dollars rendered forth to make decisions made by federal employees...


militarily, i think we do need presence there, however we are also at war currently, juggling 2 operations at once can't be the easiest of things. Where i stand on this issue is fairly bare bones, there is chaos in a city in the United States, we don't have the situation under control, civillians are dying...when a situation of that magnitude occurs, the federal government of the united states needs to step in, not take No for an answer, and control the situation, we controlled an entire country i.e. Iraq, of MILLIONS, we can control our own city, the time do this was ASAP, ideally, last Monday.



that's just my opinion, i could be wrong, but i think we can all agree, it's an utter disaster, and needs to occupy our time, effort, money and intelligence at this juncture.

 

Where are we saying that people are not doing anything to help?

I know everyone is over there helping, but my whole argument is that it took the government as long as it did to step in and help take control of the situtation.

 

well said.

 

It took so long because the Local NO government had no plan of attack other than "RUN!" Where as like those in FL and other states do have plans. and do stock up on bottled water and can good. Another reason is because noone though it was going to move that far west every model had it going stright up and hitting the FL pan handle. Instead the 2 High pressure cells kept it from doing that and ended up pushing it further west and people just were not ready. They basically had 3 days to either Run or find somehwere to get for shelter. Yes it sucks what has happened to them and my heart goes out to all of those that have last everything. I have a friend in St. Louis Bay, MS (3 miles west of Gulfport) they were hit directly and she has lost everything she has ever owned. It sucks! Like I said though we can t snap our fingers and make it all better, and that is the most frustrating part of it all is that it will never be what it was before.

 

So you expect them to magically materialize, huh? Do you have any idea how long it takes to activate and mobilize that many troops? There are already 20,000+ over there. Again, we're talking several hundred square miles of territory to cover.

You're right. Not worth getting into a pissing match over this. If you don't think enough is being done, get off your butt and go over there and help.

 

I am saying the Govt. stepped in as fast as they could faster than they did with Andrew in Fl and that was a Cat 5 hurricane this was 4 (not that that makes a difference) it took them 2 weeks to give aide to Fl and here they did it in a matter of days.

 

IT WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH!!! especailly when it comes to people losing their lives. But everyone is doing the best they can PERIOD

 

Which units are you going to mobilize? Where are they coming from? You can't just materialize 40K people with no logistical support in an area with all its infrastruture destroyed.

The govt. did forward deploy supplies to some areas. Guess what, it was all destroyed. That is why many of the intial guard units on the ground are UNARMED... WOuld you want to be in the middle of that clown show unarmed?

The military can't be used as police under Posse Comitatus Act (thank goodness).

I agree people dying sucks. But, thats what happens in a disaster. Maybe thius will be a lesson to other folks to depend on themselves rather than waiting for the govt. to come help them....

 

Alright I think we all gave enough of our own point of views.


God bless the victims and the familes of lost ones.




Cheers
G

 

when a decree is handed down to evacuate a major american city because a destructive force is relatively close, the federal government, all disaster relief programs must be set into motion and materialize as fast as they possibly can...i'm not a senator, i don't know if this has happened or is happening, possibly so, but i just feel bad for innocent americans dying and it has gone over a week and we aren't under complete control, i'm not saying the United States is doing a bad job, i had just hoped it could be done better, i'm sure Garret feels this same way.


ideally, there shouldn't have been a soul in the whole city when Katrina hit, however, since there was, i think the United States should stop at nothing to control and help everybody there...again not saying we aren't already doing that...i don't have a blueprint or schematic of our actions taken prior to this, but from what i gather, it seems as though we should be doing more.



I think we spent a ton of time, effort and money helping Iraqi's, i would like to see a very comparable amount of time, effort, and money to help Victims along the gulf coast, and I would hope all americans would agree that action needs to be done immediately.

 

I completely agree with you.

 

Yes the military can me used as law if Martial Law is envoked

Martial Law Definition

"In strict dictionary terms, martial law is the suspension of civil authority and the imposition of military authority. When we say a region or country is "under martial law," we mean to say that the military is in control of the area, that it acts as the police, as the courts, as the legislature."

Martial Law - Constitutional Topic

 

Well when the area and people are so fucked up you have to send in special operation forces in during the middle of the night to clear and secure the runways so they can start coming in to longer numbers it tends to take a little longer.