That doesn't work anymore at HPD courts. I tried it a couple months ago, they didn't even want to see the photo.

I just paid the ticket.

 

Yeah I never tried it with HPD, only Sheriffs office on clay

 

In my first post I stated that I wouldn't consider this situation warranting a search. I never said he wasn't breaking the law by not having a front plate. Does me jaywalking warrant a frisking and full body search? It goes both ways. I just don't see getting your car automatically searched because you don't have a front plate as an exceptable consequence. It's a ticketable offense yes, but it is not THE reason you search a vehicle.

ps: I rolled my eyes at your sarcasm in the first post to me

Blah blah blah anyone can have something illegal in their car, duh. A grandma can be packing in her mercury we know we know. The situation in general is more what I was focusing on. Mid day, nice area, newer car, small infraction, obeying all other laws, young male ect ect. Why would the officer choose to search this vehicle instead of say watching for speeders in the school zone that could potentially kill a child? Based of everything going on at the time, why search a car without a front plate?

You don't know me, or what my ethnic background is... I have been profiled in my younger years and found the experience rather wasteful and ignorant on the officers part. I consider myself to be more of a MacGyver than a Matlock.

I guess this situation could be considered profiling. Young white male in a nice car = drugs?

Whats your problem? I stated in my first post that I didn't think he should have been searched for the offense for which he was pulled over. You gave an extremely sarcastic response without any justification. I responded with questions, and you respond with sarcastic exaggerated answers.

I know Zach and have heard more of the story than you. Anyone could have come up with the arguement you presented. You what if'd more than I did and yet you criticize me for questioning justification and need. Okay...

I asked questions because I want to know the reasoning that one would use to justify this. Using logic, a normal person would see this as excessive. I know you run into all makes of people doing this and that, and are always preparing for the worst, but why mess with this person in this situation? Something after the initial check made him want to do a search (maybe he's just a jerk?), and I believe using the front plate as a reason is bs. There was nothing wrong besides the front plate, and he was cooperative with the officer. There is no legitimate reason in my eyes to go through his vehicle.

There are a million ways you could twist and attack everything I said, I know I could... This is the question I hoped you would answer:
What do you think the officer in question would be thinking as he is asking permission to search this vehicle, and is this enough to warrant a search?

 

that sucks, i did that over christmas break and almost didnt even have to pull out the photo at the courthouse downtown...guess the judge was having a bad day with you tony

 

Officers aren't required to enforce EVERY law, selective enforcement. There is no way that not having a front plate would lead the officer to believe that drugs are hidden in the car.

 

you just burned yourself son

 

I learned to drive in Iowa, and in residential areas there are MANY MANY intersections with NO traffic control signs - its an honor system. You just slow down, peek left and right, and roll through. Well, driving that way for almost 20 years is a hard habit to break.

Out here in Cypress I rolled the stopsign at the end of my block at 6:30 am - only two cars around were me and the deputy....stupid thing is I looked right at here and kept rolling. I guess subconsciously I was thinking "She ain't rolling, I'm clear..."

Since I looked right at her, when she lit me up she was a little pissy - like she took it personal. Which I can understand - from her seat I'll bet she was thinking "Are you serious? He looked right at me and rolled the MF stopsign!"

Of course, when she asked, I stated the obvious "I guess I kind of rolled through that stopsign." She agreed. Heartily. I accepted the ticket and went on my merry way.

Eight months later I get a phone call at work from deputies standing inside my house. The same deputy that nabbed me is the same deputy that caught two juvenile ********* INSIDE my house. They tried to take my freaking Doritos!! Now that is SO wrong!

Unfortunately she wasn't there when I got home so I didn't get a chance to thank her personally...

Just my little brush with the law...

 

If you know Zac then you should also know this is not the first time they've pulled him over and done this to him. Other case was late night either on the way to the gym, or on his way back. I can't remeber. I think this whole situation between you and Kev is getting out of hand.

 

I have no problem with Kev. I had 2 small posts in this thread before his large pointless sarcastic rant. I even responded to without being rude. Maybe Kev has a problem...

 

So what was the deal, did he not have any right to search my truck just because I was trespassing?

I dunno how he interpreted my response when he said, "I'm going to search your truck" and I said "Ok". He could of seen it as me giving him consent or it could be seen as me agreeing on his plan of action.

 

I wanna know the true to that. Yea, you got the three tickets...then you drove off and 2 more for the same thing by one of the 3 backup cops. Its not like you could magically make your exhaust quiet or make a LP appear. Those cops were ********* IMO

 

i took his (K9's) fuzzy stuffed animal comment as him agreeing with you about the front plate not being probable cause for a search and the correct thing to do was say no to the search........maybe you misread it??

anyway, it sucks that you were late, but the answer to all of this was just to politely decline the search. telling the officer that you had to be at work as a reason for declining it would probably ease any butthurtness the officer might have felt. I've been searched twice, both by my consent because i was in no hurry. If I ever feel the need or don't have the time I will decline a search and if the officer really wants to, he can find some reason to search it. I try not to make it worse and it ALMOST always pays off.

I have been let go with tons of front plate warnings, speeding warnings, even two warnings for racing, but i also recieved an 80 mph ticket in a 70 when i was actually doing 60. it sucks that the cop decided to lie in court, and he has forever tainted how i look at the man behind the badge, but i'm not going to complain THAT much because i know i wasn't caught or cited for many things i've done. just sucks to have a ticket on my record. if i'd have known i was gonna get dicked over i'd have just taken defensive driving or deferred adjudification.

 

I think this is a good time for me to chime in, with K9, and agree, that the cops do get a bad rap on the messages boards, and no one hears of the break, that most all of us do get.

I've been driving my firebirds and trans am's for 15 years now, bending the occasional speed limit or front plate also.

Been pulled over many times, mostly for the front plate BS, and all but 1 cop was very friendly and polite to me. Some of those times I got a reduced ticket, or no ticket - and I was happy for that. Like what was stated before, the FP ticket, I just paid the fine, my choice for not wearing it.

But there was the 1 cop who had it in for me, only thing he could come up with was the FP. But he made it clear I was BREAKING THE LAW, without that plate, and he'd hunt me down, pull me over & ticket me each and every time he saw my car (w/o the plate).

1 jerk out of...I cant remember how many great cops. No problem here.

 

Nothing you can do now, but next time...FLOOR IT! It works every time!

 

The way I see it....cops are just people too. If you meet 20 new people in a day, there are going to be 2 or 3 that are just great. And your going to meet 1 or 2 that are jerks. The rest are so-so. You just happened to be unlucky enough find (actually he found you) that 1 out 20 that was a jerk. Thats all, just let it go. I know that sounds over-simplified, but it really is just that simple.

Oh yeah, and say no to drugs and searches......

 

Child molester


J/K

 

please,,, you got a warning cause YOU ARE A COP, not cause you were being nice..... most cops are on a power trip, as you probley are too ( just by reading what you posted about that "punk"). you dont have a plate on the front of the car = search my car????? most cops need a life......