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UFC 60 5/27 Hughes vs Gracie
05-02-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Taco Sauce
Krazy98Z28- Don’t think that Matt’s Jiu Jitsu skills are on the same level as Royce’s. To get the fight on to the ground and once it’s there Matt heavily relies on his wrestling abilities. He uses them to put himself into a favorable position where he’s either able to pound the fight out or take a shot at a submission. The draw back to this is that unlike Royce, Matt is extremely uncomfortable when working from his back. Also don’t be naive enough to think that Matt will be able to counter anything that Royce throws at him. I promise you that Matt has not seen 1/1000th of the various options that Royce could use to possibly submit him.
Personally I’d like to see Royce win the fight but I can’t help but think that Matt’s going to win it VIA ground and pound.
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05-02-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Krazy98Z28
Remember Shamrock knew nothing about BJJ when he fought Gracie.
Matt is an overall better MMA fighter and thats what wins fights in UFC
Matt is an overall better MMA fighter and thats what wins fights in UFC
05-02-2006, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Krazy98Z28
He knows more than what Shamrock knew 12 years ago, and that will be the difference.
-Thomas
05-02-2006, 12:33 PM
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From the 1st UFC to the 59th, me and my closest friends have seen them from the beginning. With that said it really depends on who brings their A game. I've seen Matt Hughes (by far my favorite MMA fighter) put an *** whoppin' on alot of great fighters. He is a freak of nature...! But then see him loose to Penn...I was like WTF? He just wasn't fighting "his" fight and I don't think was mentally there at all. So depending on how they both come in that night and who's on their A game that will be the outcome. Don't underestimate Gracie. He's a very smart fighter that will hit you like a snake if you give him a chance. If Matt doesn't get sloppy and get caught by Gracies increadible submissions he will put the hurt on Royce...Will be an interesting fight for sure...have to go with my boy Hughes.
05-02-2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's99SS
I've seen Matt Hughes (by far my favorite MMA fighter) put an *** whoppin' on alot of great fighters. He is a freak of nature...! But then see him loose to Penn...I was like WTF?
Penn did not impress me with that fight versus St. Pierre. Hughes vs St. Pierre is gonna be a great fight!!
05-02-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Krazy98Z28
I still think that fight was fixed, because right after that fight Penn left for Pride. Either that or Hughes took him really lightly, and from what I heard he didnt train very hard for that fight.
Penn did not impress me with that fight versus St. Pierre. Hughes vs St. Pierre is gonna be a great fight!!
Penn did not impress me with that fight versus St. Pierre. Hughes vs St. Pierre is gonna be a great fight!!
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05-02-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperZzZ28
I dont think Mat will be able to ground and pound Gracie. He's just too talented. If anything Gracie will pound Mat on the floor
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05-02-2006, 02:35 PM
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Matt has got the strength to hold Royce down and pound on him. Royce will have have to work very hard for a submission. Royce just isn't strong enough to hold Matt down long enough to pound it out .
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-Thomas
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05-02-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Taco Sauce
BJ left due to a huge disagreement with Dana just like Tito.
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Thats what I mean it almost sounds as if Penn says I'll leave UFC if I beat Hughes, so White tells Hughes to lose LOL
You never know
05-02-2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Taco Sauce
Matt has got the strength to hold Royce down and pound on him. Royce will have have to work very hard for a submission. Royce just isn't strong enough to hold Matt down long enough to pound it out .
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-Thomas
05-02-2006, 06:54 PM
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I got a 100 on hughes winning the fight. It's going to be a boring 3 rounds of hughes getting the take down then staying out of trouble in guard. Basically it's going to be 3 rounds of Hughes's lay and pray...
I think Gracie is to good to just let Hughes pound on him from having him in his guard. But I don't think he's got enough to tap Matt either. So basically it will be a boring fight in which Hughes wins by decision.
And Gracie's last fight ended in a draw because of special rules. He was beat in any other scoring fights by a fighter that came UP a weight class. Gracie is the dirtiest fighter (not fair fighter, not meaning a good fighter). You all should read up on how much he cheated etc (having his corner punch from the side of the cage etc pulling hair) and all the crap he's done over the years.
10 years ago he wins this fight when no one knows what BJJ is...today he gets dominated in the UFC.
Now time for me to head off to BJJ class.
I think Gracie is to good to just let Hughes pound on him from having him in his guard. But I don't think he's got enough to tap Matt either. So basically it will be a boring fight in which Hughes wins by decision.
And Gracie's last fight ended in a draw because of special rules. He was beat in any other scoring fights by a fighter that came UP a weight class. Gracie is the dirtiest fighter (not fair fighter, not meaning a good fighter). You all should read up on how much he cheated etc (having his corner punch from the side of the cage etc pulling hair) and all the crap he's done over the years.
10 years ago he wins this fight when no one knows what BJJ is...today he gets dominated in the UFC.
Now time for me to head off to BJJ class.
05-02-2006, 07:01 PM
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Whiteman- I know nothing about the Mixed Martial Arts world or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in particular.
Sleeper- the Gracies are an extremely talented family and I’m very impressed with their martial art, so much so that it’s something that I train quite frequently through out the course of the week. My only worry is about Matt being strong enough to pin Royce in a bad position against the cage and beating on him from there. If the match stays on the ground and towards the middle of the ring, I’ve got complete confidence in Royce all day long.
-thomas
Sleeper- the Gracies are an extremely talented family and I’m very impressed with their martial art, so much so that it’s something that I train quite frequently through out the course of the week. My only worry is about Matt being strong enough to pin Royce in a bad position against the cage and beating on him from there. If the match stays on the ground and towards the middle of the ring, I’ve got complete confidence in Royce all day long.
-thomas