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I'm just dreading all the talk radio calls screaming "THIS IS A RACIST MOVE! THE ASTROS GOT RID OF PRESTON WILSON BECAUSE HE'S BLACK!"
-Mike
I'm just dreading all the talk radio calls screaming "THIS IS A RACIST MOVE! THE ASTROS GOT RID OF PRESTON WILSON BECAUSE HE'S BLACK!"
-Mike
In other words, our number 2 RBI guy that bats .270 and is excellent with RISP.
I think it was a stupid move. I'd rather see Wilson coming of the bench to pinch hit than Palmeiro or Lane.
I think it was a stupid move. I'd rather see Wilson coming of the bench to pinch hit than Palmeiro or Lane.
By no means am I a Preston Wilson fan, I mean the guy looks so lost at the plate swinging out of his cleats at curve ***** all the time, but I'm not really following the logic of dropping him instead of Jason Lane. Lane can't slap himself in the a$$ with both hands. At least Wilson, even though he wasn't putting up the HR numbers, was drinving in runs. We'll see how the move plays out, but I agree with Mike. Everyone get ready for the media to make this out to be a race issue!
By the way NL Central is gettin tight. Reds and Cards going at it with us only a few games back!
By the way NL Central is gettin tight. Reds and Cards going at it with us only a few games back!
I'd just like to add that Wilson was 30th in the league with 94 strikeouts.
A few guys that were infront of him.
1. Adam Dunn - 139 - .251
2. Ryan Howard - 132 - .298
4. Sexson - 121 - .229
9. J Thome - 111 - .297
10. J Bay - 110 - .291
10. Alfonso Soriano - 110 - .289
15. Alex Rodriguez - 105 - .286
19. Troy Glaus - 100 - .264
22. Andru Jones - 98 - .271
24. Travis Hafner - 97 - .303
26. Carlos Delgado - 96 - .251
30. Preston Wilson - 94 - .269
A few guys that were infront of him.
1. Adam Dunn - 139 - .251
2. Ryan Howard - 132 - .298
4. Sexson - 121 - .229
9. J Thome - 111 - .297
10. J Bay - 110 - .291
10. Alfonso Soriano - 110 - .289
15. Alex Rodriguez - 105 - .286
19. Troy Glaus - 100 - .264
22. Andru Jones - 98 - .271
24. Travis Hafner - 97 - .303
26. Carlos Delgado - 96 - .251
30. Preston Wilson - 94 - .269
I know that you dont like the move, but of all the guys in front of him with more strikeouts, how many had less homers?
The guys on that list are big power guys, and 9 homeruns just wasnt cutting it.
The guys on that list are big power guys, and 9 homeruns just wasnt cutting it.
I'd take Wilson over Lane any day of the week. The Astros just seem to be afraid to admit that Jason Lane SUCKS! He's not going to get any better. He was left in the minors for too long, and we should have traded him three years ago, when he was worth something.
-Mike
-Mike
Originally Posted by chadtx01
I know that you dont like the move, but of all the guys in front of him with more strikeouts, how many had less homers?
The guys on that list are big power guys, and 9 homeruns just wasnt cutting it.
The guys on that list are big power guys, and 9 homeruns just wasnt cutting it.
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lane did not clear waivers....could not send him down to the minors (out of options).
Wilson did clear waivers in which they have two weeks to put together a trade. This was a money deal all the way. They may be able to get something in return for wilson (over 1,000,000 left on his contract) because they were not going to pick his optoin for next year. Lane is A LOT cheaper than this.
Sometimes stats can go either way. Look up how many runners he has left in scoring position or hits into double plays (18). Saying he was second on our team in RBI's is not saying much (on pace for 80...not good for 5th hole). He has had like 5 homeruns since the first homestand ended....again, not good for a 5th hole hitter.
Look at it this way...if you leave ensburg in at third.....you have to put Huff in left. Thus making the choice between Scott, Lane, Burke, and Wilson. This puts Wilson on the bench with his fat wallet. I would rather have Lane in a PH role anyways......he sucks...but he at least walks an/or move a runner over (higher ops than wilson)....not the auto strikeout or double play.
sorry for the ramble. i like wilson...he just was not good for us.
Wilson did clear waivers in which they have two weeks to put together a trade. This was a money deal all the way. They may be able to get something in return for wilson (over 1,000,000 left on his contract) because they were not going to pick his optoin for next year. Lane is A LOT cheaper than this.
Sometimes stats can go either way. Look up how many runners he has left in scoring position or hits into double plays (18). Saying he was second on our team in RBI's is not saying much (on pace for 80...not good for 5th hole). He has had like 5 homeruns since the first homestand ended....again, not good for a 5th hole hitter.
Look at it this way...if you leave ensburg in at third.....you have to put Huff in left. Thus making the choice between Scott, Lane, Burke, and Wilson. This puts Wilson on the bench with his fat wallet. I would rather have Lane in a PH role anyways......he sucks...but he at least walks an/or move a runner over (higher ops than wilson)....not the auto strikeout or double play.
sorry for the ramble. i like wilson...he just was not good for us.
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Originally Posted by BlOWNSS
Sometimes stats can go either way. Look up how many runners he has left in scoring position .
RISP
AB - 113
Hits - 34
2B - 10
3B - 2
RBI - 44
OBP - .339
SLG - .425
AVG - .301
RISP w/ 2 outs
AB - 53
Hits - 18
2B - 5
3B - 2
RBI - 23
OBP - .407
SLG - .509
AVG - .407
I think we should have dropped one of our bullpen pitchers.
Originally Posted by -Ross-
I think we should have dropped one of our bullpen pitchers.
-Mike
Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
Like Borkowski? When was the last time he saw action when it meant something?
-Mike
-Mike
Is Garner planning on a shitload of 12-15 inning games or something? Does he have no confindence in Clemens, Oswalt and Pettitte to go deep into games?
Originally Posted by -Ross-
Ok. Let's do that.
RISP
AB - 113
Hits - 34
2B - 10
3B - 2
RBI - 44
OBP - .339
SLG - .425
AVG - .301
RISP w/ 2 outs
AB - 53
Hits - 18
2B - 5
3B - 2
RBI - 23
OBP - .407
SLG - .509
AVG - .407
I think we should have dropped one of our bullpen pitchers.
RISP
AB - 113
Hits - 34
2B - 10
3B - 2
RBI - 44
OBP - .339
SLG - .425
AVG - .301
RISP w/ 2 outs
AB - 53
Hits - 18
2B - 5
3B - 2
RBI - 23
OBP - .407
SLG - .509
AVG - .407
I think we should have dropped one of our bullpen pitchers.
Player AB R H HR RBI BB SB BA OBP SLG
Wilson 390 40 105 9 55 22 6 0.2692 0.3094 0.4051
Lane 230 36 49 12 32 40 1 0.2130 0.3333 0.4130
looking at this....i come to the conclusion they both suck, the Astros just pay Wilson more. at least lanes ops is better.
My bet is to put ensburg on the bench and play lamb at third. did y'all watch that game tonight?
the astros make zambrano look like bob gibson out there. makes me want to
Originally Posted by BlOWNSS
My bet is to put ensburg on the bench and play lamb at third. did y'all watch that game tonight?
The lineup I'd go with.
1. Taveras - CF
2. Biggio - 2B
3. Berkman - 1B
4. Scott - LF
5. Lamb - 3B
6. Everett - SS
7. Huff - RF
8. Ausmus - C
9. Pitcher
If Berkman felt up to it, I'd move him to right, Lamb to 1B, and Huff to 3B.
Originally Posted by -Ross-
Garner is a total tool bag if he doesn't do that soon. I say Ensberg is a big part of why we are a below .500 ballclub this year. He is not doing his job, and I won't even post his numbers with RISP, because they are horrible...(.214 batting average with RISP)...I'll leave it at that.
The lineup I'd go with.
1. Taveras - CF
2. Biggio - 2B
3. Berkman - 1B
4. Scott - LF
5. Lamb - 3B
6. Everett - SS
7. Huff - RF
8. Ausmus - C
9. Pitcher
If Berkman felt up to it, I'd move him to right, Lamb to 1B, and Huff to 3B.
The lineup I'd go with.
1. Taveras - CF
2. Biggio - 2B
3. Berkman - 1B
4. Scott - LF
5. Lamb - 3B
6. Everett - SS
7. Huff - RF
8. Ausmus - C
9. Pitcher
If Berkman felt up to it, I'd move him to right, Lamb to 1B, and Huff to 3B.
Originally Posted by -Ross-
HRs don't mean **** when you can put the ball in play and drive in runs. Wilson was doing that. He would have had even more than 55 RBIs if he had a better supporting cast.
And look at Berkman, he's playing with the same surrounding cast, and he's not getting pitched to like Wilson was and he's over 100 rbi.
Face it, Wilson was a bust. You may be pissed that he got cut, but he wasnt worth a ****. They brought him in because they wanted another power guy in the lineup. He was suppose to be a 25 homerun a year guy and he hit 9. 9 playing in Minute Maid.
He was maybe average in the field, and considering how long he's been in the league, he wasnt going to come off the bench, he wanted to be an everyday player. Having Luke Scott in the lineup daily is a big improvement over Wilson.
Originally Posted by chadtx01
Come on, you know home runs matter, thats why those names on top of that list arent getting cut in August.
And look at Berkman, he's playing with the same surrounding cast, and he's not getting pitched to like Wilson was and he's over 100 rbi.
Face it, Wilson was a bust. You may be pissed that he got cut, but he wasnt worth a ****. They brought him in because they wanted another power guy in the lineup. He was suppose to be a 25 homerun a year guy and he hit 9. 9 playing in Minute Maid.
He was maybe average in the field, and considering how long he's been in the league, he wasnt going to come off the bench, he wanted to be an everyday player. Having Luke Scott in the lineup daily is a big improvement over Wilson.
And look at Berkman, he's playing with the same surrounding cast, and he's not getting pitched to like Wilson was and he's over 100 rbi.
Face it, Wilson was a bust. You may be pissed that he got cut, but he wasnt worth a ****. They brought him in because they wanted another power guy in the lineup. He was suppose to be a 25 homerun a year guy and he hit 9. 9 playing in Minute Maid.
He was maybe average in the field, and considering how long he's been in the league, he wasnt going to come off the bench, he wanted to be an everyday player. Having Luke Scott in the lineup daily is a big improvement over Wilson.
I absolutely agree with you on Scott. He should be the starting left fielder without a doubt. He's on fire. He was on fire in last years spring training and made the team, but I think he got the rookie jitters and wasn't able to perform. Thankfully, he continued to shine in Round Rock last season and the first half of this season and we have him up here now.
Also, Ensberg sucks.
I agree with you on Ensberg. I dont know why Garner hasnt just yanked him and left Lamb at 3rd.
I know defensively Lamb isnt anywhere near as good, but he adds another bat to the lineup.
Its almost the exact opposite of a few years ago with all the left handed bats in the lineup, thats the only thing I can think of.
I know defensively Lamb isnt anywhere near as good, but he adds another bat to the lineup.
Its almost the exact opposite of a few years ago with all the left handed bats in the lineup, thats the only thing I can think of.
Originally Posted by chadtx01
I agree with you on Ensberg. I dont know why Garner hasnt just yanked him and left Lamb at 3rd.
I know defensively Lamb isnt anywhere near as good, but he adds another bat to the lineup.
Its almost the exact opposite of a few years ago with all the left handed bats in the lineup, thats the only thing I can think of.
I know defensively Lamb isnt anywhere near as good, but he adds another bat to the lineup.
Its almost the exact opposite of a few years ago with all the left handed bats in the lineup, thats the only thing I can think of.
Also, I firmly believe Berkman would have 110+ RBIs by now if Ensberg would have done his job this year. Everyone knows they can pitch around Berkman to get to this clown.