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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Forteen3GT
Steven Fereday has a good reputation... I would check his shop out.
I stopped by today, they have some pretty nice cars there already. And somehow my buddy Jason's blue SS (badbluess) ended up there, after being sold over a year ago to someone way up north. I didn't think I'd see that car again

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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I would not have paid the bill.
honestly, what can possibly have come of me not paying the bill, just for future reference. All I can see is them arguing with me that the charges are right and then keeping my keys.
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmypop13
honestly, what can possibly have come of me not paying the bill, just for future reference. All I can see is them arguing with me that the charges are right and then keeping my keys.
I would have let them keep the keys for the night. Posted on Tech, had a nice arbitration going... then see if they give em back! The truth is a bitch sometimes.
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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hmm, I think I'd just be too worried that a place would mess with my car like do some donuts or loosen some bolts, that kinda thing
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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right I agree...I would just move on and not go back. I would be worried that someone would tamper with my car because I pissed them off by throwing a bs flag for the overcharges.
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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so...they gonna give US the insight on charges? try to justify them?
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Havok2
so...they gonna give US the insight on charges? try to justify them?

Probably not. But knowing how things go on this sight, it would probably be in their best interest to. Or maybe not. The post they made was so crappy, I had to read it twice to make sure I didnt miss anything.

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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I thought I was on the high side, not so much anymore... That total job would have cost about $1000-1100 at my work fwiw. I've never charged shop supplies myself and prob never will, but there are shops that its justified in and needed.

$960 for a poly mount, clutch, and master cylinder (drill mod) labor? Thats an afternoon of work. I think someone made a mistake and charged 2 or 3 times on a few things, probably a miscommunication between someone, I've seen that happen at busy places. Good luck getting it resolved.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmypop13
The third line down from the top right says "X-PIPE/REMOVE OLD SYS"
Just ignore the X-PIPE part because they never touched it. They were going to take it to an exhaust shop to put it on but the exhaust shop told them over the phone that they wouldn't work on a car without catilytic converters. Also, I didn't say anything about the other charges on here because they seemed reasonable, although $45 does kinda sound high to check my computer. I had a low rpm misfire when I came in that I thought was due to an old sparkplug & that's exactly what I told them. I didn't know they would charge to plug in & look. I don't know why it says check codes, I didn't have any. The other stuff I had done was fluid change, a textralia clutch install, & the tranny was pulled so SixSpeedsInc could come pick it up.


haha DAMN!!! can you say **** rapage....you should def get some of that back....like $500-$600
Old Jun 8, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fasstls1
Chris,

If you felt ripped off or had any questions about the bill I wish you would have contacted us personally. If would like for us to go over each individual line item on your bill; please feel free to come by and sit down and talk with us. Thank You for your time; and hope to talk with you soon.

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You can do a lot better than this BS, unbelievable.
Old Jun 8, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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sad that this happened to you man, and the looks of things they are not willing to make it right..
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Originally Posted by LS168Camaro
Their business model is dependent upon marking up parts to stay in business. If you bring your own parts then the price for labor should go up. If you don't agree with that then you haven't been in the business.
a profit.
Umm thats 100% ******* BULLSHIT. When a shop buys a good at a wholesale price it is THEIR ******* JOB to price the items so they will be competetive in the marketplace in which they do business. If a customer can go out and buy the product at a cheaper rate than the shop offers he should NOT be penalized by paying higher labor rates. I dunno where you learned how to run a business but your little "theory" is garbage. Shops provide both labor and service, if a customer happens to only need one or the other in NO WAY should be be forced to pay a higher rate.
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Originally Posted by jimmypop13

I wish they would have said it would cost money when I asked them to check the computer
That was one of the worst (of many) rip offs on your invoice.
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We dont raise our labor rate if a customer brings his own parts. I will not warranty any of the customer provided parts and if they dont fit correctly or are broken then the customer is responsible for all labor involved even if I am a dealer for these parts.
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Originally Posted by MADMAN
We dont raise our labor rate if a customer brings his own parts. I will not warranty any of the customer provided parts and if they dont fit correctly or are broken then the customer is responsible for all labor involved even if I am a dealer for these parts.
I don't think anybody does, that guy is just full of ****.
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No **** right. I love the response from the shop too... To save face they should just mail him a check.
to save face they should come here admit they over charged and refund him 500 or so. if i saw that bill at a shop i would have stood there and called the BBB for price gouging.
Old Jun 8, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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I don't think anybody does, that guy is just full of ****.
Actually, you're wrong. Quite a few shop raise labor to offset loss of part profit. I've even seen one that refused, for liability reasons, to install parts customers bring in.

The reason for the raised labor is twofold; profit and less headache. We did this at the shop I managed. If everyone brought their own parts in shops would go out of business. Labor pays the bills but part profit is just that; profit. It's up to the shop to see how they deal with this. Whenever I got a good deal on a part I passed the savings on to the customers, I'd lower the list price over the retail price or o.e. stealership price. We used 95% o.e. parts and very few aftermarket. The good thing with independant shops like the one I used to manage is you can actually get to know them, as you would your doctor, well, the good shops anyway.

But you're opening a huge can of worms by allowing your customers to bring in their parts and expect to stay profitable. Just isn't going to happen.

EDIT - Look at it like this. Movie theaters won't allow you to bring in snacks from outside and restaurants won't allow you to bring in the food to make the meal, both for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by Blue's_Z28
Actually, you're wrong. Quite a few shop raise labor to offset loss of part profit. I've even seen one that refused, for liability reasons, to install parts customers bring in.

The reason for the raised labor is twofold; profit and less headache. We did this at the shop I managed. If everyone brought their own parts in shops would go out of business. Labor pays the bills but part profit is just that; profit. It's up to the shop to see how they deal with this. Whenever I got a good deal on a part I passed the savings on to the customers, I'd lower the list price over the retail price or o.e. stealership price. We used 95% o.e. parts and very few aftermarket. The good thing with independant shops like the one I used to manage is you can actually get to know them, as you would your doctor, well, the good shops anyway.

But you're opening a huge can of worms by allowing your customers to bring in their parts and expect to stay profitable. Just isn't going to happen.

EDIT - Look at it like this. Movie theaters won't allow you to bring in snacks from outside and restaurants won't allow you to bring in the food to make the meal, both for obvious reasons.
I guess it's like this, the customer has all the power. If they want to raise rates because they didn't buy parts the customer can tell them to go **** themselves (and should). The key is if the shop made it aware to the customer that the rates would be increased due to that fact, if not then the shop is in the wrong. But with this case it is different, they are just screwing him. $240 for a drill mod? What did it take 3+ hours to do or something, lets remember this stuff is added up by xx$/Hour, I would LOVE to see the math that gave them a total of $240 for the drill mod. Whoever wrote up that service ticket is either a dumbass or a crook.
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Originally Posted by Blue's_Z28



But you're opening a huge can of worms by allowing your customers to bring in their parts and expect to stay profitable. Just isn't going to happen.
I dunno about that. On parts the shop has to buy them from a wholesaler, and then mark them up. But with 1000's of shops and parts stores around they can't go marking things up however they want. They need to keep their prices competative with the market, so it's not like they are making big points on the parts alone. Sure it helps with warranty issues and a little extra dough but the real money should be made on labor and all the extra charges associated with the labor.
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i didn't hear anything about that. All I saw was a sign that said labor was $85 an hour

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