Originally Posted by 9sec02ss

so im racist now??? dude i said that in a joking manner and i even said lol after i said it, thats kinda like me saying most preps are a momma's boy, or saying most black people listen to rap, or most rednecks listen to good ol country music, or a skater likes rock music, how is that racist, oh my bad since i said that i must hail hitler huh??? looks like you're mad cuz people that actually buy alot of vehicles are going by what i say and are agreeing with me, so instead of trying to pick something i say apart just chill and have a civil judgement about it

also, to explain different holdback for dealers is simple, you described your job and basically you're the secretary which the secretary is the bitch of the store and has NO BUSINESS and NOT ALLOWED in closing screens and finalizing screens, also you have to have a high end password to get into those screens and if you did get into those screens you wouldnt have any idea what you're looking at, i mean if yall do business like that i bet the guy at the parts counter could get in the lightspeed terminal and tell me the amount of hold back a unit has lol or maybe your custodian lol, sooo....... let me explain the difference between hold backs for each dealer, GM will have salesmen from gm called "district reps" to try and make a dealer order more inventory, NOTE: the more vehicles ordered = the more $$$ gm makes, gm makes money off of dealers, not public, the dealers make money off of public, so.... there are incentives for ordering more units from gm, which is very cost effective, meaning if a small dealer orders 50 silverados from gm they will get the normal invoice deal from gm, but if a power dealer orders 250 silverados from gm they will get huge hold back incentives, its a gamble though cuz if you order too many it could cost you tons in interest from the banks buying them from gm to put on your lot, but if you order a good amount of them you can sell alot, make alot on holdback, have first dibs on the next years order and a power dealer has priority over other dealers from gm if they need anything at all, keep in mind dealers are customers to gm, gm makes $$$ off of dealers thats why they put out huge incentives like big holdbacks or invoice reduction incentives, mainly they put their incentives in the holdback #'s cuz its confidential to that specific dealer,....... thats why a jim bob store in the country can sell a vette for 50k and a power dealer can sell one for 42k, its cuz of the incentives they got from gm cuz they ordered alot more vettes then jim bob in the country did, so they have alot more holdback to work with,....... but as i said before, sales managers dont go into holdback when negotiating on a vehicle unless they have too many in stock and they are not selling, so with gas prices being at all time highs and the economy being in bad shape right now not many people are buying vettes and they are just sitting on the lot, and each day a vehicle sits on the lot it cost the dealers money in interest SO I WAS POINTING OUT RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE BEST TIME TO GET WELL INTO HOLDBACK on large dealers that have big holdbacks to negotiate with and big dealers that are losing money on gas guzlers right now, you probably dont understand that either since you havent understood anything that i have thoroughly explained in the past but hey i tried

Originally Posted by Ravenous T\A

arabic put downs in a joking manner also? maybe U should drive down to oak cliff and see how making a statement like that flys?

Originally Posted by AGRV8D

I made statements about arabs while i was deployed... I guess i was deployed in the Oak Cliff of the world... hmm, they did not say much to us though i personally dont think there is anything wrong with talking **** to muslim extremist's

Originally Posted by Ravenous T\A

Those are two completly different communities.....Normal people and extremist. I was more insulted by the Jewish comment, and im not even Jewish but respect there history and the tribulations that race of people have endured throughout the centuries.

Originally Posted by Ravenous T\A

Now your taking the high road...I like that. 1st u come on my posting and call me names, accuse me of being a some green pea then make an off color comment and try to say "its alright, I typed LOL after it" nice I like that. Maybe if you started the discussion in a calm and mature manner we could of grabbed lunch sometime but after all the name calling and misinformation u produced about the business I would rather eat by myself thank-u. Im 31yrs old and have a College degree, I started at my dealership at 21yrs old.

Originally Posted by KBG

I agree with very little of what you've said in this thread....I believe Ravenous is trying to help potential vette buyers get a good deal. Whether or not he will benefit from this makes no difference to me..... I just think that it is cool that he took the time to type this thread to help out some fellow car guys

I would probably get a little agitated too if someone making their first posts on this board basically told me I was full of ****