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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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I had to make one........tired of paying for alignment because I don't have a rack...........I welded up some 1" x 2" ........ cut 2 pieces to reach the middle of the sides of the tire and welded them to a piece abot 3" longer than the width of my tires.......used free metal and I'm used to using them on the 3 racecars I crew for......If you want to know how to use one , lemme know......
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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how are you doing caster and camber?
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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hes looking at toe, not caster or camber. i'm assuming to center the steering wheel.

Toyota came up with a way to center the steering wheel by measuring how far off in eiter direction by putting tape on the steering wheel and steering column and measuring from the center line when the vehicle is driving straight. the steering wheel can be 1-5mm off center in either direction and you turn the inner tie rods opposite ways by so many flanks in matrix to the 1-5mm off.

If you are interested in trying this I can take pics of the procedure. Far as being accurate 1-5mm off I normally just guess and do it nascar style and dial in another half flank of adjustment etc.

This is a quick way, i'd say easy way out of centering the steering wheel. in 6 months my shop is getting a brand new Hunter 811 to replace our 1989 John bean alignment rack (if you call it) that uses a 386 processor computer.
The hunter alignment with win toe is the most accurate way of setting toe that will best affect tire wear.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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i know hes not measuring caster and camber with a toe bar but keep in mind that toe is only 1 alignment angle that causes tire wear. straighting the steering wheel is fine and all but you still can have driveability problems if caster and camber are out such as wondering.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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Why make a bar when you can set it with a tape measure
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ta12sec
Why make a bar when you can set it with a tape measure
because it's faster and more accurate.......

as far as camber goes......a smartlevel will work............caster............well ........ya need a gauge and turntables.............
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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OK faster maybe but I dont think it would be all that much more accurate if any.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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HOW do you get to the middle of the tire with just a tape measure......the car is in the way.......?????
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Same thing we use.

Caster and camber can both be measured with a smart level, although the latter requires some math.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by G2 LS1
Same thing we use.

Caster and camber can both be measured with a smart level, although the latter requires some math.
how do you do caster with a smart level ? on the spindle ? or turn the wheels ?


EDIT : duh , figured it out on the way to the track.........

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