RooRnZ28

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****** badass man.... it looks sick

FredoCamaro

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Awesome!

JasonWW

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Hey Kenny, what are some good websites to learn about air suspension?

Also, I'm having the hardest time finding someone who can talk about the springrates of various air bag designs based on pressure and so forth. Know any guru's in this field?

Just PM me the info as the mods probably won't let you post any links.

Thanks.

car_fixer

good lookin car, and it is nice to see another view or an f-body, its an unusual car to see like that (since its hard to do) so even though i wouldnt want it, keep us posted, and that car will get plenty of looks anywhere it goes

brad8266

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Throw sum D'z on dat bitch!!!

JasonWW

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What diameter bag is that your running?
Is there any fitment issues with the swaybar or brake lines?

Oh yea, any pics of the airtank and other parts?
Any advice for a newbie like me as far as what compressor, tank size or valve style to get?

One more thing, what pressure is going to give you a firm, good handling type ride? Is it near the bags max pressure?

T Pizzle

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Looks Good

slammed1500

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the bags are 2500
the swaybar will need a lil custom mounting on the control arm

air ride tech has some nice valves (big red valves) but its all what you are looking for
we have parker valves on the camaro

the more pressure u put in the bag the more its going 2 raise
so it not really pressure thats going 2 give it a firm ride its the shock

and i like viair compressors
i hear air-zenith is really good and they are rebuildable

z2fast8

i've been work'n with bags for years and yes the more pressure u put in the bag the stiffer the ride will be. but only realy affects at over 120 psi

slammed1500

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it gets stiffer because it starts 2 run out of stroke

drivelikeIstoleit

what size and offset are those rims front and back?

JasonWW

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I thought of that, so I have a threaded sleeve design on the front shocks. No matter what pressure I run the front bags at I can adjust the lower mount to return to the same ride height. Like so:



I also just heard that if you have the valves at the rear the air in the lines adds to the bags air capacity. So if you want a firmer ride, it's best to mount the valves up front for the front bags.

Did I mention I found room for a 5 gallon tank under the car?

I figured the shock would play an important role, that's why I want to run a bag with the Koni rebound adjustable units I have now. The Air Ride Shockwaves with the QA1 shocks are just not very high performance.

I believe running 1/2 valves on the inlet side and then 3/8 dump valves are also a smart combo as it deflates a lot quicker than it inflates due to the weight of the car. This would save some money. Does that sound right?

slammed1500

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if you run 200 psi in the tank it will raise up faster than if u have 150 psi but u will have a lil more air 2 play with

this is so i can control the speed of the dump valve
http://www.suicidedoors.com/images/p...ow_Control.jpg

and this is a fill control
http://www.suicidedoors.com/images/p...illControl.jpg

putting the valve close 2 the bags will make it faster also

JasonWW

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I was thinking a higher tank pressure would be better. I'm going to shoot for 200psi with dual pumps.

I believe it being faster with the valves by the bag is because the bag capacity is smaller. When the valves are way in the back and your using 1/2" lines, all the air in the lines is part of the bag capacity. The lines act like an accumulator. I'm just realizing this. So mounting the valves by the bags reduces the air volume. That makes it fill quicker, dump quicker and ride firmer. I'm probably not going to focus on super fast setups, but I'm going to play around with the valve location. Front valves will probably be by the front bags, but I'll experiment with the rear.

I think I'm getting a handle on all this air stuff now. I need to get my hands on some gear and start experimenting.

jpticar

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Man thats a lot of work but it looks damn good. Mean lookin car

z2fast8

valve location really wont help much because the air in the line will also be at the same psi at the bag and half if valves are fast. on my old s-10 i had half valvs mounted all the way in the back of the bed and it would hop the front off the ground with 2500/re6 slambags (wich are firmer and smaller in diamiter)

z2fast8

use 3/8s all around and if u dnt like how fast it drops u can put a reducer on it

JasonWW

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If you mount the valves near the bag, the lines should be at tank pressure, not bag pressure. So if you get a leak in a line, your bags will hopefully stay aired up. That's one small advantage I see right there.

So I should just get 8 of the 3/8 valves along with a good 200 or so tank pressure? Then add some slow downs to the exhaust valves?

Since I don't want the air in the line to add to the front air capacity, I'll mount those valves in the front. Don't you think it would help increase firmness up front by doing that? It just makes sense that the more air capacity a bag has the softer it will ride.

What's a half valve?

cpt_bimes

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First off if you get a leak in your airline between the bag and the valve, that bitch is hitting the ground. You most likely aint gonna be able to "limp" it home you'll be repairing some **** on site.

3/8" valves are plenty fast. You'll most likely want reducers to slow the drop down. Just go to lowes and get a 3/8 to 1/4 adapter for each exhaust. It's like $1 and it works just fine.

An airbag will ride best when it is 1/2-3/4 way extended. Now that is dependent on the weight of the vehicle. Pressure really has little to do with it.

Example "Theoretical Here" You have a 1250 lb. object. You also have a 2500 lb. bag. Now who knows what pressure it is going to take to make that bag move 1/2 of its travel. Does it really matter?...not really. Now say you have a 2000 lb. object. and the same 2500 lb. bag. It's gonna take more pressure to lift the bag 1/2 way up to the same about of inches of lift you got before.

So concentrate more on weight than pressures.

Are you doing this just to say you have a bagged TA? Or are you planning on having serious performance out of this?

This is for the tubed guy. Why didn't you just get AirRide shockwaves?

slammed1500

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wouldnt go as low
and dont have enough stroke from all the way down 2 up 2 clear the tires