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01-11-2008, 10:06 AM
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Vendetta--
And is SeatStaysUp a sponser? Just curious because it is in your signature and it looks like a totally seperate site. That is the reason I thought it was ok to mention another site here. I mean it is not like the sponsers here are losing money from mentioning another forum here. Seems more like it is someone trying to stop a mass exodus to that other site.
Not trying to start ****, just would like some clarification on the SPAM issue. I for one am glad someone pointed it out. Now I have another site to visit, and if they dont **** this one up anymore I will be sticking around here anyway, so no harm done.
And is SeatStaysUp a sponser? Just curious because it is in your signature and it looks like a totally seperate site. That is the reason I thought it was ok to mention another site here. I mean it is not like the sponsers here are losing money from mentioning another forum here. Seems more like it is someone trying to stop a mass exodus to that other site.
Not trying to start ****, just would like some clarification on the SPAM issue. I for one am glad someone pointed it out. Now I have another site to visit, and if they dont **** this one up anymore I will be sticking around here anyway, so no harm done.
01-11-2008, 10:19 AM
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Brian and the others at IB worked all night to get this stuff back to where it needs to be. It is all getting straightened out. Tech will be back exactly how it was very soon. No need to just jump the ship yet.
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01-11-2008, 10:29 AM
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. No sense talking crazy here. No need to sell your car!There may have been a little sarcasm is my original post too, sorry if any of you took it the wrong way. I know, it only made me look like a moron
01-11-2008, 10:54 AM
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Vendetta--
And is SeatStaysUp a sponser? Just curious because it is in your signature and it looks like a totally seperate site. That is the reason I thought it was ok to mention another site here. I mean it is not like the sponsers here are losing money from mentioning another forum here. Seems more like it is someone trying to stop a mass exodus to that other site.
Not trying to start ****, just would like some clarification on the SPAM issue. I for one am glad someone pointed it out. Now I have another site to visit, and if they dont **** this one up anymore I will be sticking around here anyway, so no harm done.
And is SeatStaysUp a sponser? Just curious because it is in your signature and it looks like a totally seperate site. That is the reason I thought it was ok to mention another site here. I mean it is not like the sponsers here are losing money from mentioning another forum here. Seems more like it is someone trying to stop a mass exodus to that other site.
Not trying to start ****, just would like some clarification on the SPAM issue. I for one am glad someone pointed it out. Now I have another site to visit, and if they dont **** this one up anymore I will be sticking around here anyway, so no harm done.
To clarify, sites or shops mentioned or links posted that COMPETE in any way with LS1Tech or its paying sponsors is SPAM. This is a business plain and simple, and directing traffic away from here not only affects our sponsors but also the longevity of this site itself. You can bet your *** that spam will be deleted at the discretion of the staff as soon as it is identified.
For example, you cannot walk into Nike headquarters and start hanging Reebok ads, yet you feel that you can walk "into" this business and start posting ads for competitive sites or businesses? It just does not work that way.
Also for the record, SeatStaysUP is an non automotive site, without competing sponsors, and has absolutely nothing to do with the LSX world other than being started by the original owners of this site. Exactly how is that a problem here?
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01-11-2008, 11:01 AM
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Oh, I didnt know we were in a competition with other LS1 sites. I guess thats why this site looked so good to Google in the first place.
OK I wont mention it again.
OK I wont mention it again.
01-11-2008, 11:05 AM
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You are trying to start ****...
To clarify, sites or shops mentioned or links posted that COMPETE in any way with LS1Tech or its paying sponsors is SPAM. This is a business plain and simple, and directing traffic away from here not only affects our sponsors but also the longevity of this site itself. You can bet your *** that spam will be deleted at the discretion of the staff as soon as it is identified.
For example, you cannot walk into Nike headquarters and start hanging Reebok ads, yet you feel that you can walk "into" this business and start posting ads for competitive sites or businesses? It just does not work that way.
Also for the record, SeatStaysUP is an non automotive site, without competing sponsors, and has absolutely nothing to do with the LSX world other than being started by the original owners of this site. Exactly how is that a problem here?
To clarify, sites or shops mentioned or links posted that COMPETE in any way with LS1Tech or its paying sponsors is SPAM. This is a business plain and simple, and directing traffic away from here not only affects our sponsors but also the longevity of this site itself. You can bet your *** that spam will be deleted at the discretion of the staff as soon as it is identified.
For example, you cannot walk into Nike headquarters and start hanging Reebok ads, yet you feel that you can walk "into" this business and start posting ads for competitive sites or businesses? It just does not work that way.
Also for the record, SeatStaysUP is an non automotive site, without competing sponsors, and has absolutely nothing to do with the LSX world other than being started by the original owners of this site. Exactly how is that a problem here?
01-11-2008, 11:18 AM
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You are trying to start ****...
Also for the record, SeatStaysUP is an non automotive site, without competing sponsors, and has absolutely nothing to do with the LSX world other than being started by the original owners of this site. Exactly how is that a problem here?
Also for the record, SeatStaysUP is an non automotive site, without competing sponsors, and has absolutely nothing to do with the LSX world other than being started by the original owners of this site. Exactly how is that a problem here?
wow........so its ok to promote non auto motive sites? I can go in so many directions with this one but ill let it slide
01-11-2008, 11:18 AM
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The key issue i believe is that many of us thought that it might've been okay to give the sponsors some sort of "an equal shot" at having one of the top-12 spots while getting a better handle on the height of the right column. 154 boxes stacked atop one-another looks ... *bad*, and makes every page clunky to load.
But our approach clearly didn't work out well for the Sponsors. A few even reported traffic to their site drastically dwindling.
Sponsors want to have their identity on every single page, users want to be able to see them all right there, and going from 154 to 12 was too drastic. So we'll spend more time engaging them on this. The other key issue we'll want to keep in mind is that Sponsors need to have their logos clearly officially blessed by the site and identified as "the guys who make this site possible", that "these guys can be trusted because we know who they are, we know where they live and they won't screw you over". The American flag icon Brains had put on top of their tower yesterday was a pretty interesting concept in that direction, but i'm sure we can do better.
Whatever we come-up with should help make it clear in users' mind that:
1) Sponsors can be trusted
2) Other ads that go on the page, Google Ads, Banners, Towers, "are *just* ads", not to be confused with actual sponsors.
Am I off-base? Let me know, and I'll relay the info.
The other thing that fueled the fire is the fact that we've had some really really frickin' weird issue with our doubleclick ads, causing that back button/history bug. First time we see this. We're still looking into that one.
Doubleclick is helpful because it puts the tedium of ad maintenance and rotation out of the hands of Engineering. That makes Brains and I happy.
01-11-2008, 11:32 AM
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You're welcome.
The key issue i believe is that many of us thought that it might've been okay to give the sponsors some sort of "an equal shot" at having one of the top-12 spots while getting a better handle on the height of the right column. 154 boxes stacked atop one-another looks ... *bad*, and makes every page clunky to load.
But our approach clearly didn't work out well for the Sponsors. A few even reported traffic to their site drastically dwindling.
Sponsors want to have their identity on every single page, users want to be able to see them all right there, and going from 154 to 12 was too drastic. So we'll spend more time engaging them on this. The other key issue we'll want to keep in mind is that Sponsors need to have their logos clearly officially blessed by the site and identified as "the guys who make this site possible", that "these guys can be trusted because we know who they are, we know where they live and they won't screw you over". The American flag icon Brains had put on top of their tower yesterday was a pretty interesting concept in that direction, but i'm sure we can do better.
Whatever we come-up with should help make it clear in users' mind that:
1) Sponsors can be trusted
2) Other ads that go on the page, Google Ads, Banners, Towers, "are *just* ads", not to be confused with actual sponsors.
Am I off-base? Let me know, and I'll relay the info.
The other thing that fueled the fire is the fact that we've had some really really frickin' weird issue with our doubleclick ads, causing that back button/history bug. First time we see this. We're still looking into that one.
Doubleclick is helpful because it puts the tedium of ad maintenance and rotation out of the hands of Engineering. That makes Brains and I happy.
The key issue i believe is that many of us thought that it might've been okay to give the sponsors some sort of "an equal shot" at having one of the top-12 spots while getting a better handle on the height of the right column. 154 boxes stacked atop one-another looks ... *bad*, and makes every page clunky to load.
But our approach clearly didn't work out well for the Sponsors. A few even reported traffic to their site drastically dwindling.
Sponsors want to have their identity on every single page, users want to be able to see them all right there, and going from 154 to 12 was too drastic. So we'll spend more time engaging them on this. The other key issue we'll want to keep in mind is that Sponsors need to have their logos clearly officially blessed by the site and identified as "the guys who make this site possible", that "these guys can be trusted because we know who they are, we know where they live and they won't screw you over". The American flag icon Brains had put on top of their tower yesterday was a pretty interesting concept in that direction, but i'm sure we can do better.
Whatever we come-up with should help make it clear in users' mind that:
1) Sponsors can be trusted
2) Other ads that go on the page, Google Ads, Banners, Towers, "are *just* ads", not to be confused with actual sponsors.
Am I off-base? Let me know, and I'll relay the info.
The other thing that fueled the fire is the fact that we've had some really really frickin' weird issue with our doubleclick ads, causing that back button/history bug. First time we see this. We're still looking into that one.
Doubleclick is helpful because it puts the tedium of ad maintenance and rotation out of the hands of Engineering. That makes Brains and I happy.
01-11-2008, 11:47 AM
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Just to let you guys know, I still have a couple problems on my end..The first one is that on every page I get a real quick flash of text that scrolls down the column where the sponsors should be that then just disappears. I finally caught it with a screen capture and heres what it looks like:
Secondly, after that text is gone, all I have even on the main page is just a blank white column. No sponsor links or anything related to them. That goes for anywhere on the main page as well. There are NO sponsor links anywhere on the site for me at all. Heres what it looks like from the main page..
The only sponsor info that I have is from that scrolling text in the first picture which then vanishes after about 2 seconds. I also noticed that the text that scrolls down like that is always changing. It appears to have different sponsor links in it every time. It also does that on any page I go to on the site.
Secondly, after that text is gone, all I have even on the main page is just a blank white column. No sponsor links or anything related to them. That goes for anywhere on the main page as well. There are NO sponsor links anywhere on the site for me at all. Heres what it looks like from the main page..
The only sponsor info that I have is from that scrolling text in the first picture which then vanishes after about 2 seconds. I also noticed that the text that scrolls down like that is always changing. It appears to have different sponsor links in it every time. It also does that on any page I go to on the site.
01-11-2008, 11:48 AM
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01-11-2008, 11:49 AM
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wow, that's weird... Try Ctrl-F5 to force a full refresh, and see if that helps. They're just static images now, exactly like they used to be pretty much, but the top and bottom ads are still using doubleclick.