Installing subframe connectors
05-05-2009, 06:06 PM
#21
SFC's HAVE to be welded in with the whole suspension under load - that requires a ramp lift or a shop that has a basement level where the car drives over it on metal supports. A four point lift not only blocks the SFCs from being installed but if you somehow still figured it out you would probably total the car by twisting the chassis when you put it back on the ground.
Not much. It's mostly peace of mind.
He's also always REALLY busy. He charges between $80 and $100 to install, depending on his mood. Good guy that knows his stuff, but I don't want to wait in line for an undetermined period and then pay $100 to install my SFCs if I don't have to.
Not much. It's mostly peace of mind.
Dyno Don is a terrific welder. He pretty much does all of our thridgens but he's down in Orange. If you want experienced guy to do it, then its worth the drive.
Don Lorentzen
1030 W. Hoover Ave.
Orange, CA 92867
(714) 633-5168
Engine rebuilding, Trans rebuilding, Subframe Connector welding, Exhaust specialist, Rear end specialist, Custom chips, Carb/TBI/TPI.
Don Lorentzen
1030 W. Hoover Ave.
Orange, CA 92867
(714) 633-5168
Engine rebuilding, Trans rebuilding, Subframe Connector welding, Exhaust specialist, Rear end specialist, Custom chips, Carb/TBI/TPI.
05-07-2009, 11:22 AM
#24
some people say to weld them on with no load on the suspension, that way, when the suspension loads up again, it in effect "preloads" the SFCs and you will have less flex.
Ive done it both ways and not noticed **** worth of difference
Ive done it both ways and not noticed **** worth of difference
06-09-2009, 11:24 AM
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i got the umi 3 point sfc's weld on trying to find someone to weld em up but one shop said they dont know how much cause they might have to take out the interior for 02 camaro think they mainly do mustangs but theres not many shops around town
06-10-2009, 04:26 PM
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http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/t...fcamaro001.flv
ok this is mine once done
ok this is mine once done
I'd like mine done ASAP!
06-10-2009, 05:42 PM
#32
It's an exhaust shop in Garden Grove. Alex (LT ChevyBoy) knows where it is exactly. He took me there. He also had to do a lot of extra welding to get them to work on my car, cause one side of the underbody was caved in a little before I got the car. And he still only charged me 40 bucks.
06-13-2009, 11:46 AM
#35
Same shop that SRJ used. Welds look decent. Not $100 an hour quality, but they work. I'm covering the whole area in Rustoleum metallic black and it looks fine once painted.
I also had them tuck my exhaust tips higher and further in while straightening them out (which was a royal PITA... 2 welds, one Sharpie mark, and 3 times raising and lowering the lift later) grand total with SFC install was $60.
06-14-2009, 05:26 AM
#38
Let's see you do better for $40... I sure ain't paying Dyno Don $100 and waiting 6 months on his guest list.
If you want to, you can pay me $400 and I can have my master fabricator buddy reweld in the subframe connectors across the entire length with perfect nickel-shaped welds. If you want concourse quality you have to pay for concourse quality.
I doubt enough force is exerted on those welds to break them anyways (especially with them bolted in). If there is ever that much force, it'd only be in a major accident situation in which case one of the last things I'm worrying about is my subframe connector welds remaining intact...
If you want to, you can pay me $400 and I can have my master fabricator buddy reweld in the subframe connectors across the entire length with perfect nickel-shaped welds. If you want concourse quality you have to pay for concourse quality.
I doubt enough force is exerted on those welds to break them anyways (especially with them bolted in). If there is ever that much force, it'd only be in a major accident situation in which case one of the last things I'm worrying about is my subframe connector welds remaining intact...
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06-14-2009, 05:13 PM
#39
Let's see you do better for $40... I sure ain't paying Dyno Don $100 and waiting 6 months on his guest list.
If you want to, you can pay me $400 and I can have my master fabricator buddy reweld in the subframe connectors across the entire length with perfect nickel-shaped welds. If you want concourse quality you have to pay for concourse quality.
I doubt enough force is exerted on those welds to break them anyways (especially with them bolted in). If there is ever that much force, it'd only be in a major accident situation in which case one of the last things I'm worrying about is my subframe connector welds remaining intact...
If you want to, you can pay me $400 and I can have my master fabricator buddy reweld in the subframe connectors across the entire length with perfect nickel-shaped welds. If you want concourse quality you have to pay for concourse quality.
I doubt enough force is exerted on those welds to break them anyways (especially with them bolted in). If there is ever that much force, it'd only be in a major accident situation in which case one of the last things I'm worrying about is my subframe connector welds remaining intact...
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06-15-2009, 12:55 AM
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Let's see you do better for $40... I sure ain't paying Dyno Don $100 and waiting 6 months on his guest list.
If you want to, you can pay me $400 and I can have my master fabricator buddy reweld in the subframe connectors across the entire length with perfect nickel-shaped welds. If you want concourse quality you have to pay for concourse quality.
I doubt enough force is exerted on those welds to break them anyways (especially with them bolted in). If there is ever that much force, it'd only be in a major accident situation in which case one of the last things I'm worrying about is my subframe connector welds remaining intact...
If you want to, you can pay me $400 and I can have my master fabricator buddy reweld in the subframe connectors across the entire length with perfect nickel-shaped welds. If you want concourse quality you have to pay for concourse quality.
I doubt enough force is exerted on those welds to break them anyways (especially with them bolted in). If there is ever that much force, it'd only be in a major accident situation in which case one of the last things I'm worrying about is my subframe connector welds remaining intact...
For quick and willing service, on a short notice appointment basis that shop is a place I'll continue to go to. He's been in business for countless years. Shops with bad reps don't stay up. And for the cost and speed of his work I'm happy with him or I would have never taken you there.
To each his own for opinions, but I'll trust my car and what it withstands in the twisties and canyons more than I will 2nd hand criticism. Remember that bro, before you openly put yourself or your car onto the Tech Thread "chopping block."