WhiteKnight '01

Link or it didn't happen.

djsanchez2

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I can't find the specific article where i read it but these corvette guys are referring to it. Sorry it wasn't laguna seca, and it was a 1LE SS, but it was GM engineers test drivers that found this to be true.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...ck-c5-z51.html

"There's nothing that I left out of the equation or the comparison. Let me clarify once again... a stock 1LE equipped Camaro SS was consistently faster around Spring Mountain and GM's Milford Proving Grounds than a stock C5 Z51 Corvette with the same driver. Period."

I'll keep looking for the specific article I originally seen this quote.

fast01z28

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If memory serves, in 2001 when GM went to the LS6 intake manifold, they changed the F-body cam to a "truck cam" to decrease the output. They didnt want to boost the hp to anywhere near what the Corvette put out.

WhiteKnight '01

You're right. The LS1 in 2001 and 2002 received the LQ4 cam. Not sure if that affects the power or not, because the LS1's in 2001 and 2002 from what most people say have a lot more ***** than the '98-'00 LS1's.

C5natie

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^^
Yeah my friends '02 was pretty quick even in stock trim. Easy thing to do is to just compare the cams. Also those cars recieved the LS6 block with had better oil passages and better breathing within the block. Just an overall better setup.

WhiteKnight '01

I heard that some LS1's in 2001 and 2002 received the LS6 block, but this gave no increased power output, power stayed the same. Also read that the LS6 block wasn't as sturdy or as strong as the LS1 block. The oil passages and breathing may be true, I am not sure.

C5natie

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Not saying it made more hp, just a better block. I have a few books on LS1's that state the the LS6 is actually a stronger block. It has better webbing in the block for added rigidity and strength. I'll get the book and post it later if anyone wants to look it up.

camarojunky74

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330hp/341 tq stock
361hp/371tq stock blackwing lid, Gmmg catback and Cms tune.
100 shot of n20 510 hp and 580tq

Stock 1/4 12.89 @110
N20 11.67 @119
Factory clutch exhaust manifolds and gearing, no weight removal actually my 220lbs and 40lb sub box.

camarojunky74

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Oh 2002 SS
Slp 345hp package

mannyman84

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345 is just an imaginary number. By you pushing 330 wheel is way more then 345 crank.




So it's safe to say that ls1's are between 285-340 wheel.... Pretty cool but kinda sucks for the slower ones.

Dan

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Firehawk owners thought they had more HP than us because SLP states 345hp..CROCK

WhiteKnight '01

The SLP package did have a better flowing exhaust system and a better air intake. So it was making slightly more than a stock Z28 or SS.

Dan

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You couldn't prove it to me by the dyno numbers..Numbers were almost exactly the same as a WS.6..1/4 mile times were the same too. Lets face it, my $60 cutout and $100 air lid gave me just as much power as a $600 SLP exhaust & $300 air lid & filter. Who came out ahead? LOL

WhiteKnight '01

Your cutout only cost $60? I'm curious...what does a cut-out do exactly? And how much HP will it net you?

Theblacknightls1

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Umm.. the one that has more resell value Lmao

mannyman84

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Is this why I would walk some SLP cars? With both of us stock? That's BS! Ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1

WhiteKnight '01

With the improved CAI and the improved exhaust you aren't getting that big of an HP increase from a regular Z28 or SS, you might be getting 10, maybe 15 tops.

That's not really enough to make a difference in a race vs another LS1. It's basically a driver's race. Just like a Z28 can beat an SS.

But hey, every small mod helps, if that improved CAI and exhaust gets you 10-15 HP more than a stock LS1, that's a step in the right direction.

Dan

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I think my 30th has a higher resale value than a Hawk. It just depends on the buyer.
A cutout bypasses the muffler. I didn't personally do a dyno test, but have seen numerous others net 10rwhp. Mine is called a "Zed" style cutout, It is uncorked right before the muffler, Surprised you have not heard of a "cutout" WhiteKnight, It has been around for years.

WhiteKnight '01

I have heard of it, but didn't know exactly what it does. I'm new to the V8 game, and even newer to the modding. Just put my two mods on my car in the past few months. But it seems like with my current cat-back that a cutout would be pretty useless.

mannyman84

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doesn't do much. Lots of aftermarket exhaust and CAI will give you better power then the SLP edition cars. Like I said before. And ls1 is an ls1. Z28 to the "top" ls1. I've beaten slp cars and have gone head to head with base z28's

I've never seen anything huge come out of a cut out. No big deal to me. And aren't you new to V8's? So now is the time to tell you... Ls1 is an ls1