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Old 04-12-2013, 01:18 AM
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Default Need ideas. H/C ls1 down.

So I spun a bearing in my ls1 at the track. What would you guys do next?

Another engine?
Rebuild and forge? Or
?????
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What's your budget? That sucks man.
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Yeah. :/ well I don't want to spend way to much. All the work will be done by me so I will save on labor lol. It's time just to save up now I guess.
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Look for a low mileage L92/LS3 block. New LS3 oem heads go for $720 the pair. With a mild cam youre aanywhere from 450-480rwhp on a budget.
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Thanks. That's a good idea, I'll give that a thought as well.
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What's the minimum bore for some ls3 heads?
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I have ported 243's now
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Personally I would go this route:

Junkyard 5.3 motor = $500
Brand new S475 turbo from forcedinductions.com = $650
Odds and ends to complete turbo kit and fuel system = $1000

Bam, for $2150 you have a 650rwhp capable car. Done and done.
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Just pick up a 5.3 and spray it, you already have everything.just put some arp rods bolts whiles its apart.
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Originally Posted by 93camaro_zzz
Personally I would go this route:

Junkyard 5.3 motor = $500+Head studs,gaskets & springs minimum
Brand new S475 turbo from forcedinductions.com = $650Plus oil feed block, return and supply lines
Odds and ends to complete turbo kit and fuel system = $1000I wish, good gate and BOV will run more than 500 to control that S475. Plus flanges, truck manifolds, all piping for hotside, all cold side + intercooler, injectors are easy $300, in tank pump set up, random couplers, fab down pipe and connect to exhaust. OP has a clean WS6 doubt hes going to dump it through the fender any relocation brackets he'll need

Bam, for $2150 you have a 650rwhp capable car. Done and done.
I wish it was that easy. you've built/building a turbo car..you know what it takes to do it right. I'm in the middle of a turbo 4.8 build, no such thing as a cheap turbo build, cheaper, yes, cheap, no.
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Originally Posted by mannyman84
I have ported 243's now
Min 4" bore for LS3's. You could probably sell your cam and ported 243's and about break even on a LS3 head/cam set up for a 6.0. You'll need a LS3 specific cam grind since they like a larger split. also need LS3 rockers and valve covers though.

Your 243's and cam would probably make good power on a LQ9/LS2, LQ4 being alittle less due to compression. LQ9/LQ4 is a drop in set up aside from drilling 1 alternator bolt hole. Any LS2 or Gen 4 set up will require conversion of cam sensor, relocate knock sensors, and pending year 58x to 24x reluctor wheel box, about $300. L92/LS3 will require LS2 front cover etc plus everything else I listed.
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I was able to nab a set of L92 heads with rockers and stands for $575. I also nabbed a complete LS3 intake sans TB for $255...... The deals are out there, just gotta look.

I have a 6.0 LQ4 that will be getting this top end. I got the LQ4 shortblock for a spare LS1 bare block i had laying around.

If you can find parts such as your ported 243's and cam to sell/trade you can get everything relatively easily w/o a crazy amount out of pocket. Also yes a custom cam would be a great idea. PatG or PredZ would both be able to help you. I ordered specs for a cam from both

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Know any one else who wants to trade a LQ4 SB for a LS1 block? lol! I have a perfectly good LS1 short block sitting here I'm not using.
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I got it a few years ago. Some dude was putting a LS2 in his camaro and sold me the LS1 block, crank, pistons/rods for $200. A few months after that, I was able to trade the LS1 bare block for the LQ4 shortblock. Then sell the crank $100 and the rods/pistons for $115. So I essentially got it for free.

To buy a LQ4 shortblock you are going to pay ~$450 and for a LQ9 you are looking at ~$700 (from what i've seen around)
Or you can get a LQ4 and LS2 rods/pistons for ~$100-150 and save a bit.
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All this makes me smile lol. How about a forged ls1 short block? How does that sound?
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A dude on FB is selling a forged 6.0 short block. But I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to performance parts on what's good and what's not
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^How much?
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Originally Posted by oChristiano
^How much?
1000 bucks
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Originally Posted by mannyman84
1000 bucks
Not bad. Have build sheet? What internals & what internals? 365" or a 370?
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I'll have to ask.


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