One last reply to SS#2906's thread...
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One last reply to SS#2906's thread... I really feel the need to emphasize this part again (in bold) b/c it pisses me off that someone would do this to us:
No Julio, you're the fool. 
What you also did was taint your friend's issues (59 Camaro and ???). They may have had legitimate issues that we'd all like to hear, but what could you add to the story given you'd lie to every member on this board for $250?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/western-members/899053-so-you-guys-wanted-proof-about-cms.html
Originally Posted by SS#2906
Ryne,
With all due respect, I'm not coming at you in a wrong way. ***** or not, I'm simply asking for a solution that we can both feel comfortable with.
I understand your point of view, therefore I offer a few solutions;
1. The $250.00 I paid you for your services is refunded and I post a thread taking everything I said about the inconsistency of your dyno back. I'll even add that I just dynoed my car here in Las Vegas and it read 356, thus confirming your fluctuation of 10hp.
2. I recieve a refund of $150.00 and you keep the other $100.00 for the gear ratio adjustment, and the deletion of the air and rear o2 codes. This is based on a price that I received from Haddad a few months ago before I decided to wait for CMS. Thus ending our fiasco and you won't here from me again.
3. I post a thread with 2 dyno charts. 1 from your shop, indicating a max output of 346.9hp at 6500rpm, and a/f ratio of 13.2, and an apparent knock at approx 4300rpm. 1 from another shop, about 3-4 weeks before my visit to CMS, with a max output of 343.60hp at 5500rpm, an a/f ratio at about the same 13.3 as your shop, and no knock whatsoever.
I hope that you can understand where I'm coming from in regards to my concern on the 3hp gain from my visit to your shop. Keep in mind also that I know you have ALOT of supporters and I in no way intend/nor want to screw your reputation up.
With all due respect, I'm not coming at you in a wrong way. ***** or not, I'm simply asking for a solution that we can both feel comfortable with.
I understand your point of view, therefore I offer a few solutions;
1. The $250.00 I paid you for your services is refunded and I post a thread taking everything I said about the inconsistency of your dyno back. I'll even add that I just dynoed my car here in Las Vegas and it read 356, thus confirming your fluctuation of 10hp.
2. I recieve a refund of $150.00 and you keep the other $100.00 for the gear ratio adjustment, and the deletion of the air and rear o2 codes. This is based on a price that I received from Haddad a few months ago before I decided to wait for CMS. Thus ending our fiasco and you won't here from me again.
3. I post a thread with 2 dyno charts. 1 from your shop, indicating a max output of 346.9hp at 6500rpm, and a/f ratio of 13.2, and an apparent knock at approx 4300rpm. 1 from another shop, about 3-4 weeks before my visit to CMS, with a max output of 343.60hp at 5500rpm, an a/f ratio at about the same 13.3 as your shop, and no knock whatsoever.
I hope that you can understand where I'm coming from in regards to my concern on the 3hp gain from my visit to your shop. Keep in mind also that I know you have ALOT of supporters and I in no way intend/nor want to screw your reputation up.
Yeah, I said that I would throw that in there along with the apology for the misconception of your dyno. That doesn't mean I did it, nor am I going to.
That was just for the sake of clearing up any issues once and for all.
But you know what, I am gonna dyno it here. And if I'm right and your dyno is wrong are you willing to work something out as far as the partial refund?
Or If you are right and I do get the 355ish, I will still give you the apology on this forum.
What do you say???
That was just for the sake of clearing up any issues once and for all.
But you know what, I am gonna dyno it here. And if I'm right and your dyno is wrong are you willing to work something out as far as the partial refund?
Or If you are right and I do get the 355ish, I will still give you the apology on this forum.
What do you say???
What you also did was taint your friend's issues (59 Camaro and ???). They may have had legitimate issues that we'd all like to hear, but what could you add to the story given you'd lie to every member on this board for $250?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/western-members/899053-so-you-guys-wanted-proof-about-cms.html
Ahhh, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings Bry. But being as how I don't give a **** about what you have to say, I'm gonna end this by getting my tune fixed and posting the results later.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.
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Ahhh, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings Bry. But being as how I don't give a **** about what you have to say, I'm gonna end this by getting my tune fixed and posting the results later.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.
Gee, I wonder who read the tunes and gave you the feedback???????????????? "just doesn't seem right" that you're such a fool!
I'm sure Ryne/crew spent the whole $250 on hookers and coke!! Man, what a party they must of had on your dumb ignorant ***. I bet Ryne could make a living screwing idiots like you @ $250 a whack. Of course I'm sure Ryne has learned a lesson from all of this and from now on: All customers coming in for tunes will be "promised" a dyno number based on what he or she, the customer "thinks" his car should make regardless of reality. Now everyone is happy. Ryne parties lik a rock star and dumb **** customers like SSnumbnuts can dragrace his dyno sheet. CASE SOLVED!!
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But you avoid my main point because you know I'm right: You'd lie to every member on this board for $250.
If/when you come back on with your "proof", we all know how low you would go to get what you want, so it won't be any surprise, plus it won't be believed.
Good luck with your next lie.
damn, maybe i should cry that i only gained 13 hp from my tune at another shop.
oh wait, no I understand my car runs better and that my track times HAVE improved, thus the hp numbers mean precisely SQUAT.
shut your face and move on. your mentality fits in better with the hondas where they have horsepower wars. us grown ups use the track to gauge improvements.
oh wait, no I understand my car runs better and that my track times HAVE improved, thus the hp numbers mean precisely SQUAT.
shut your face and move on. your mentality fits in better with the hondas where they have horsepower wars. us grown ups use the track to gauge improvements.
there ya go Eli.... 
Ahhh, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings Bry. But being as how I don't give a **** about what you have to say, I'm gonna end this by getting my tune fixed and posting the results later.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.
Ahhh, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings Bry. But being as how I don't give a **** about what you have to say, I'm gonna end this by getting my tune fixed and posting the results later.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.
Here's a little information about my "knock":
"So heres what gets me, suposibly your car was knocking, but your original tune has only 19* timing on the top end, he ADDED 5* and leaned out the afr. leaner mixture + more timing should increase the likely hood of knock retard. He pretty much just made the knock sensors half as sensitive as they originally/should be.
That dip in your hp graph was more likely the IAT spark table coming into play and not actual knock.
im very surprised that by leaning it out to where it should be and increasing the timing you didnt get more than 3hp, just doesnt seem right."
I don't give a **** about the money anymore, he can keep every penny of it.