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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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any advice. my 60's suck. i've been going to the track for the last month.
my car is a full bolton car. no cam or heads.I'm running bfg's Dr's 275x40?x17's and most of my 60's are 2.2's. i lower my tire pressure from 22psi-16 psi. i launch at 3krpm.any advice?
I just got some 16'' mt et streets that i'll be using soon. so it should hook a bit better. do you guys think it safe to run them on my car? kinda scared..thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by 01SOMSS!
any advice. my 60's suck. i've been going to the track for the last month.
my car is a full bolton car. no cam or heads.I'm running bfg's Dr's 275x40?x17's and most of my 60's are 2.2's. i lower my tire pressure from 22psi-16 psi. i launch at 3krpm.any advice?
I just got some 16'' mt et streets that i'll be using soon. so it should hook a bit better. do you guys think it safe to run them on my car? kinda scared..thanks guys!
Learn to drive, for starters

Second, you'll probably be ok with slicks, but I'd being a trailer to the track, cause if you're on a stock rear, it's not if, it's when.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Learn to drive, for starters


j/k Luis

i launch it at roughly 3500 and have my 315 nittos at about 15-18

i run them 18-2- on the street all the time btw
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Learn to drive, for starters

Second, you'll probably be ok with slicks, but I'd being a trailer to the track, cause if you're on a stock rear, it's not if, it's when.
jack ***!
I'm new at the track. so I'm just trying to practice and get better.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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there is a TON of stuff to try but most likely you will have to slip the clutch alittle instead of just dumping it.........
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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those tires will help a lot. on street tires i was getting 2.0s on a good nite at qualcomm. now im in the high 1.8s on my 275/40/ mt et streets. dont be bummed about shitty 60 foots at qualcomm luis. b/c after all it is a PARKING LOT
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Originally Posted by 01SOMSS!
jack ***!
I'm new at the track. so I'm just trying to practice and get better.
How long are you burning out for? How are you dropping the clutch?
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i ussually burn out for 5 Mississippis(luke method ) and lauch at 3k rpm i slip it a bit apperantly not enough.a lil of a slip and dump. do you guys think I'll be ok on the Et's?
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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soundss like a good start to me. do you have relocation brackets? i hope so being that your car is lowered
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nope. i should have done that along time ago. it seems like the car ran better before the lowering. maybe its just me.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Try different launching points. try 3.5k rpms then go lower. Not everyone has the same sweet spot. A 2.2 sixty on bfg definately needs improvement.
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Originally Posted by 01SOMSS!
any advice. my 60's suck. i've been going to the track for the last month.
my car is a full bolton car. no cam or heads.I'm running bfg's Dr's 275x40?x17's and most of my 60's are 2.2's. i lower my tire pressure from 22psi-16 psi. i launch at 3krpm.any advice?
I just got some 16'' mt et streets that i'll be using soon. so it should hook a bit better. do you guys think it safe to run them on my car? kinda scared..thanks guys!
You dont have enough power to break something. You'll be fine with slicks.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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I know CamaroJucky Is going to jump on me about this b/c I forget everytime I dont know **** about suspension but I would recommend Relocation brackets regardless of your car being lowered. They help with the angel of the control arms and increases pressure on the rear wheels. Disconnect the front swaybar end link to help with weight transfer. Then Control arms. From there just practice "A LOT" on slipping the clutch. I have pulled a 2.0 Flat on street tires. The time in my sig. where on ET Streets and I was clutch dumping at 3600rpms and bogging off the line but still pulled my best time like that . To much tire.

I would sau Do a 3300-3800rpm Clutch Slip. So about a 2-4 second burnout to simply get the water off the tires. Drag Radials dont technically need to be heated up like Slicks do.
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hes m6 of course he has enough power to break something. m6s have a eternal hatred for the 10 bolt. they are very bad boys
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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you just have to learn your car its deff trial by error, no stress john force didnt wake up one day hitting perfect r/t's. for your application which is very similar mine, you have to find the balance of clutch and gas, to much of either 1 will significantly hurt your 60's its just something you have to work on. what will help no matter what track your going to is noting info down on each time slip, rpm you launched at, the amount of slipping the clutch you did and or how much you think you spun or bogged,

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1.909 60'
i would describe mine like this
3500rpm
slipped the clutch but let go of it too early and bogged out of the hole.

ex 2
1.850 60'
4000rpm
slipped the clutch but still spun a little no bogging

ex3
1.809 60'
4250 rpm
slipped the clutch hard, barely spun no bogging

this is what i do every time i make a pass as well as note tire pressure after each pass, and write that down as well, helps find what your tires like and what your car likes

hope this helps
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Originally Posted by C5natie
Go off the last (3rd) yellow, not the green light. By the time the green hits your car will be moving. Work on timing it and you'll see a difference.
were talking about 60's not reaction time.
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Originally Posted by C5natie
You dont have enough power to break something. You'll be fine with slicks.
its not direct power that breaks rear's its the shock. ive broken a few rears with stock power and dr's
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Originally Posted by ConElite
I know CamaroJucky Is going to jump on me about this b/c I forget everytime I dont know **** about suspension but I would recommend Relocation brackets regardless of your car being lowered. They help with the angel of the control arms and increases pressure on the rear wheels. Disconnect the front swaybar end link to help with weight transfer. Then Control arms. From there just practice "A LOT" on slipping the clutch. I have pulled a 2.0 Flat on street tires. The time in my sig. where on ET Streets and I was clutch dumping at 3600rpms and bogging off the line but still pulled my best time like that . To much tire.

I would sau Do a 3300-3800rpm Clutch Slip. So about a 2-4 second burnout to simply get the water off the tires. Drag Radials dont technically need to be heated up like Slicks do.
i'm really not the ******* you perceive me to be, and if you look back at our discussion about 60's you will see i never ever argued with you about suspension componets and what impact relocation brackets have on stock car's hell it doesnt take a scientist to understand leverage.
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Originally Posted by 01SOMSS!
i ussually burn out for 5 Mississippis(luke method ) and lauch at 3k rpm i slip it a bit apperantly not enough.a lil of a slip and dump. do you guys think I'll be ok on the Et's?
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Thats way too long to heat up a drag radial. You just need to clean them off and warm them up a bit, too hot is just as bad as a cold tire.

Originally Posted by C5natie
Go off the last (3rd) yellow, not the green light. By the time the green hits your car will be moving. Work on timing it and you'll see a difference.
You dont have enough power to break something. You'll be fine with slicks.
60' times, not R/T, nothing to do with each other. Stock power is enough to break a 10 bolt...

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its not direct power that breaks rear's its the shock. ive broken a few rears with stock power and dr's
True, so if your good with operating two pedals with one foot preload the car a bit, not too good on the clutch since you will be slipping it to preload it but when you get good at it you can start preloading on the second amber so its not slipping for too long.
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Originally Posted by Almostryan3
Thats way too long to heat up a drag radial. You just need to clean them off and warm them up a bit, too hot is just as bad as a cold tire.



60' times, not R/T, nothing to do with each other. Stock power is enough to break a 10 bolt...



True, so if your good with operating two pedals with one foot preload the car a bit, not too good on the clutch since you will be slipping it to preload it but when you get good at it you can start preloading on the second amber so its not slipping for too long.


true but when you get even better you stop lifting off the gas while shifting further killing the life expectancy for the clutch and or the rear
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