summit stars sticking out too much?
09-10-2010, 12:15 PM
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summit stars sticking out too much? I bought some summit stars 15x8 they rim is almost flush with the rear couter but with the tires on they stick out a probably 1/2 inch maybe a inch. Im worried about messing my couter up at the track, should i look at going with some air shocks or something or do you think i might be fine.
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09-13-2010, 08:06 PM
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5.5 on an 8" wheel will stick out further than a 7.5" on a 10" wheel. The tire itself will center differently in the fender on that wheel (stick out more). For the tire tread to sit in the same location as the 10" wheel, you'd need a 6.5" backspace, which is not offered.
I wouldn't use an 8" wheel anyways; its too small for most tires people run and doesn't offer the stability a 10" wheel would with the same size tire.
Unfortunately, the wheel is yours now if you mounted them. At least they were inexpensive. Wheel manufactures/vendors do not take returns on mounted wheels.
Roll your fenders and center the wheels with an adjustable panhard rod (if the wheels are not centered) if you're concerned.
I wouldn't use an 8" wheel anyways; its too small for most tires people run and doesn't offer the stability a 10" wheel would with the same size tire.
Unfortunately, the wheel is yours now if you mounted them. At least they were inexpensive. Wheel manufactures/vendors do not take returns on mounted wheels.
Roll your fenders and center the wheels with an adjustable panhard rod (if the wheels are not centered) if you're concerned.
09-14-2010, 12:59 AM
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5.5 on an 8" wheel will stick out further than a 7.5" on a 10" wheel. The tire itself will center differently in the fender on that wheel (stick out more). For the tire tread to sit in the same location as the 10" wheel, you'd need a 6.5" backspace, which is not offered.
I wouldn't use an 8" wheel anyways; its too small for most tires people run and doesn't offer the stability a 10" wheel would with the same size tire.
Unfortunately, the wheel is yours now if you mounted them. At least they were inexpensive. Wheel manufactures/vendors do not take returns on mounted wheels.
Roll your fenders and center the wheels with an adjustable panhard rod (if the wheels are not centered) if you're concerned.
I wouldn't use an 8" wheel anyways; its too small for most tires people run and doesn't offer the stability a 10" wheel would with the same size tire.
Unfortunately, the wheel is yours now if you mounted them. At least they were inexpensive. Wheel manufactures/vendors do not take returns on mounted wheels.
Roll your fenders and center the wheels with an adjustable panhard rod (if the wheels are not centered) if you're concerned.
09-14-2010, 06:10 AM
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Many people do things for different reasons some are not aware of differences or don't care. It doesn't make it right or wrong.
09-14-2010, 02:01 PM
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If your car is lowered it might be because the rearend is shifted. Is it sticking out farther on 1 side than the other? Mine did when I lowered my car but I just fixed it with my adj. Panhard.
09-14-2010, 05:56 PM
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Is this what you mean(as far as sticking out)? These are Summitt Stars 15x8 w/5.5 BS 275/50/15's..
http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewga...wimg&id=133881
No issues at the track..
http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewga...wimg&id=133881
No issues at the track..
09-14-2010, 06:00 PM
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5.5 on an 8" wheel will stick out further than a 7.5" on a 10" wheel.
Your wheel that you're using will stuck out the same amount as the poster's setup. It was ok for you, but obviously not for him. The wheel will stick out further than a 10" wheel with a 7.5" backspace
that is not true.
if your referring to "centering" in the wheel well than a 15x8 would need a 6.5" backspace to maintain the same offset, but that will pull the outer edge of the 15x8" an inch more inside the fender than a 15x10", not keep it the same
a 15x8 with a 5.5" BS may look like is sticks out more than a 15x10 with a 7.5" BS, but the relationship between the outer edge of the wheel and the outer fender will be the same, the variance will be on the inner edge
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09-14-2010, 07:58 PM
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Tally,
No one is perfect, I make mistakes but I am 100% correct regarding my analysis. I'll explain why for you and others who may be interested. Many folks believe what you're trying to explain as well, so you're not alone. But it is a misconception and incorrect.
If you want the TIRE to stay in the same location you need to remove equal amounts of inner and outer shell material. It doesn’t matter what size wheel you’re converting to. What you're doing is essentially pinching the inner and outer bead area moving the wall at an inward angle but the tire tread or contact patch area is staying in the same spot.
If you only move one shell component, as in the case of the 8" wheel with 5.5" backspace, the tire will re-center on the wheel and move the contact patch. You are correct that the outer shell sits in the same spot.
The outer wheel location is not important. What is important (if one likes how a particular tire is positioned) is that the tire doesn't move. …Since the 8" wheel's inner moved and not the outer shell, the tire re-centers outward 1/2 the distance. Therefore, the 8" wheel will not only "look" like the tire sticks out ~1” more than the 10" wheel it does. I say ~1" since the sidewall encroaches the tread area slightly and shrinks it. Needless to say, it is moving it 1/2 the distance though.
Hope this clears up your misconceptions.
Good luck!
No one is perfect, I make mistakes but I am 100% correct regarding my analysis. I'll explain why for you and others who may be interested. Many folks believe what you're trying to explain as well, so you're not alone. But it is a misconception and incorrect.
If you want the TIRE to stay in the same location you need to remove equal amounts of inner and outer shell material. It doesn’t matter what size wheel you’re converting to. What you're doing is essentially pinching the inner and outer bead area moving the wall at an inward angle but the tire tread or contact patch area is staying in the same spot.
If you only move one shell component, as in the case of the 8" wheel with 5.5" backspace, the tire will re-center on the wheel and move the contact patch. You are correct that the outer shell sits in the same spot.
The outer wheel location is not important. What is important (if one likes how a particular tire is positioned) is that the tire doesn't move. …Since the 8" wheel's inner moved and not the outer shell, the tire re-centers outward 1/2 the distance. Therefore, the 8" wheel will not only "look" like the tire sticks out ~1” more than the 10" wheel it does. I say ~1" since the sidewall encroaches the tread area slightly and shrinks it. Needless to say, it is moving it 1/2 the distance though.
Hope this clears up your misconceptions.
Good luck!
09-14-2010, 09:26 PM
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My mistake, I should have written more precise. It is a huge mistake for people posting that choosing a 10 w/7.5" is the same as an 8 wi/5.5" and will net the same results with only just a smaller wheel.