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Old 06-13-2013, 04:10 PM
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Default R compound street tire vs drag radial on the street?

Im running some toyo proxes tq dr's and they arent terrible as far as traction on the street, but they make the rear end feel softer than Id like. Would I lose much straight line grip going to something like an R888 or an Nto1? Id prefer to have some nice sticky tires for the street that dont let the rear end sway in cornering. Any other options worth looking into?
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I run the R888's and couldn't be happier with them. The harder you lean on them the better they stick. They do have a stiff sidewall so the ride is pretty firm and they are a touch noisy on the highway.
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The Toyo R888 is great on the street.

Also had good success with the Nitto 555R II's on the street and the track. Not your ideal drag race tire, however they provide good straight line traction on the street once warm and are great in the turns. These tires are my primary dual purpose (street and road course use) tires, although I have a set of Toyo RA-1's that I'm getting ready to slap on to experiment with.
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Thanks for the input, anybody else here run the R888's and have info to share? When my proxes tq's are done I think these will be my next street driving tires.
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Drag Radials have sidewalls designed for launching and not as much turning. The car will handle better and still have good hook up with a tire like the R888.
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Ok second question, would I get better traction from a wider tread or more sidewall? I can run either a 275/40r17, or a 315/35r17.
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Originally Posted by fly boy_1
Ok second question, would I get better traction from a wider tread or more sidewall? I can run either a 275/40r17, or a 315/35r17.
What size wheels are you running in the rear? I'd simply select an appropriate size tire based on the size of the wheels you're running. The difference between the 275/40 and a 315/35 seems to indicate you have two completely different size wheels in mind. Obviously, the wider 315 would provide better straight line traction.
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I have some 17x11s which im using with 315s now, and Ive also got some 17x9.5s I can use. I was just wondering if one rim/tire combo would be significantly different when it comes to traction from a dig.
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31.5/2.54 = 12.4016*.35 = 4.34in
27.5/2.54 = 10.8268*.4 = 4.33 in

Sidewall height is nearly identical between the two.
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Do you drive this car all season? The R888's are a very soft compound and you need to store them inside when it gets colder than 20 F or something like that. They are also not great in rain or cold weather. Just something to think about. I drive my car year round except for in snow so ended up getting the NT05s because of this.
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No, It's pretty much a summer only car at this point. In my experience, NT05's sucked in the rain, would the 888's be much worse?
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Even the NT05s will 'freeze' in cold conditions, and be just as useless as R compounds in ambient temps colder than ~45* F, the same as any other MAX performance summer tires.

Now there are some ultra high performance all season tires which can handle cold temps and stick fairly well (but of course NOT as well as a high performance winter compounded tire).
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Originally Posted by fly boy_1
No, It's pretty much a summer only car at this point. In my experience, NT05's sucked in the rain, would the 888's be much worse?
I have only driven twice in the rain on my R888's. I will say they are better than I expected traction wise. My rears are 335's as well which doesn't help matters in the wet stuff. I was able to buzz down the highway at 70mph in pouring rain with them and had no issues.
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Originally Posted by fly boy_1
Ok second question, would I get better traction from a wider tread or more sidewall? I can run either a 275/40r17, or a 315/35r17.
Are you talking straight line traction, or cornering traction?

Now this is all with in a reasonable mind set...

A narrower tire, will have more forward grip than a wider tire. And a wider tire will have more lateral grip than a narrow tire.

Its all about foot print, and pounds per square inch. In a drag scenario, I would rather have a taller, skinnier tire, and in a cornering scenario, a wider, shorter one. Seeing as these tires in question are roughly the same height, Its going to be less of an issue.

There comes a point with tires of the same height, that going wider will reduce straight line traction. As the foot print increases, pounds per square inch is reduced, and you'll spin more.



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