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Old 05-04-2017, 03:37 PM
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Default Who has 335 tires on the back....?

Besides banging the hell outta the inner wells.....

Did you need to buy offset LCAs....?

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I have 335's on a 12" wheel. Just a lot of "massaging" of the inner wells, no offset lca's. I get a little rubbing on the inside of the tire when I put out/in the drive way while turning but nothing too major.
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Originally Posted by joeformula
I have 335's on a 12" wheel. Just a lot of "massaging" of the inner wells, no offset lca's. I get a little rubbing on the inside of the tire when I put out/in the drive way while turning but nothing too major.
My rims are 12.5"......

Are the tires close to the LCA's...? How much room do you have in-between?


Do your tires rub the inner wells.....or the LCAs...?

In your opinion.....would 345's also work if I banged the inner wells more? Would the 345's also clear the LCAs...?

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I rub on the inner well not the lca. I don't think 345's will work judging off my 335's little clearance. You'll probably have to cut/notch some of the inner fender well to give you the clearance.
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Originally Posted by joeformula
I rub on the inner well not the lca. I don't think 345's will work judging off my 335's little clearance. You'll probably have to cut/notch some of the inner fender well to give you the clearance.
Are you using spacers?

Whats your offset?

My rear wheel offset is 56mm. But I have widened them 2 inches. So I may need a spacer to move the wheel outward some so it doesn't hit the LCA and clears the inner wells.

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I am not running a spacer. Sadly, I do not remember the offset after a decade of having these wheels.
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Originally Posted by joeformula
I am not running a spacer. Sadly, I do not remember the offset after a decade of having these wheels.
Damn!,, I was looking foward to asking you the same question about the offset. I recently strayed away from a set of 18x12's, and the smallest tire available was a 335 and I remembered you had some.
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Originally Posted by joeformula
I am not running a spacer. Sadly, I do not remember the offset after a decade of having these wheels.
Ok, well, thanks for the info.

I'm gonna just put some 335 BFG Rivals with the 200 Treadwear rating. Should last a long time.

For good weather racing days/night:
My other rear set of 18 x 10.5 wheels which are an exact match for my 18 x 12.5's will get some 315 size M&T drag radials or the 315 Nitto drag radials that are on the new Dodge Charger that runs 9's.....

We'll see what happens.

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Any progress fitting 335's in the rear?
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
Any progress fitting 335's in the rear?
I wish I could have finished....damn hurricane came and slammed us in South Florida.....never got to finish. Now I'm back in the damn Middle East, maybe till mid December.

But I do know what I'm doing....and I'll also be selling a simple kit so everyone can fit 335/345 tires on the back. Not a mini tub kit...there is absolutely no need to do a mini-tub kit. Just gonna provide the template on where to cut the inner wheel well wall, the 16 gauge custom steel plate to fit that cut-out pattern perfectly to be welded in place, and then you will need to hammer the upper inner wheel well areas so the tires won't rub up top. Very easy. Should be able to complete it all in 2-3 hours.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, offset LCAs are required to run 325/335/345 tires......

Too bad I couldn't get it done. My friend, a fabrication guy, is waiting for me so we can finish and make the kit.

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The part on top of the bump stop needs cutting out first as it curves towards the tires.. I have 315's currently and that's where they're closest to. The rest of the tub is nice and soft and a BFH job.
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Originally Posted by Launch
The part on top of the bump stop needs cutting out first as it curves towards the tires.. I have 315's currently and that's where they're closest to. The rest of the tub is nice and soft and a BFH job.
I've had my 315's on there for 12 years....all I did was the hammer to the inner wheel wells.....didn't take much.

But these 335's I have on my 18 x 12.5 rims.....YES, that entire area of three ridges sticking out and the entire bump stop are all getting cut out. Then the flat steel plate welded in. Thats it. I don't think I need to hammer anymore but won't know for sure until we slip them all the way on. But I think I can easily hammer another inch of clearance if I have to.

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Originally Posted by LS6427

But these 335's I have on my 18 x 12.5 rims.....YES, that entire area of three ridges sticking out and the entire bump stop are all getting cut out. Then the flat steel plate welded in. Thats it. I don't think I need to hammer anymore but won't know for sure until we slip them all the way on. But I think I can easily hammer another inch of clearance if I have to.
Exactly my thinking when I looked at mine to run bigger than 315. I already have offset LCA's and they have a heap of clearance to the 315's, so 335's or even 345s shouldn't be an issue with the LCA's.

Looks like can also weld new bump stops brackets on the inside part next to the coil springs.

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Originally Posted by Launch
same here


Exactly my thinking when I looked at mine to run bigger than 315. I already have offset LCA's and they have a heap of clearance to the 315's, so 335's or even 345s shouldn't be an issue with the LCA's.

Looks like can also weld new bump stops brackets on the inside part next to the coil springs.
Question:
I've been looking at the three different offset LCAs that I found. maybe there are others....

What brand do you have? I need to get those also to make it all work. I want as much extra clearance as possible.

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Originally Posted by Launch
Looks like can also weld new bump stops brackets on the inside part next to the coil springs.
I wonder though...if you weld the bump stop back in.....will you be able to get a real wide tire off and back on.....if you got a flat on the side of the road. When we were fitting mine using a car lift at the dealership.....there was no way we could put my 335 tires off/on with a regular jack on the side of the road....the bump stop mount was in the way.

You would have to have two jacks with you....one to lift the car, so the tire would come off the ground, but also one to lift the axle and lower the axle to reposition where the bumpstop is....as you are trying to pull the tire off and put it on. You would have to slide the tire on as you dropped the car down towards the axle slowly as you lined up the studs to slide it on and angle the tire so the rim clears the bumpstop....everything in motion at the same time.. Pain in the *** with two people....but we stopped trying. Not sure we even could have pulled it off.

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Originally Posted by LS6427
Question:
I've been looking at the three different offset LCAs that I found. maybe there are others....

What brand do you have? I need to get those also to make it all work. I want as much extra clearance as possible.

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Founders with heim joints both ends. I think most of the lca brands are similar, but you need the heim joint style, and the offset spacers to go with it, the spacers are different lengths and fit on each side of the heim joints so it offset the lca inwards. The short spacer goes on the inside.
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Originally Posted by LS6427
I wonder though...if you weld the bump stop back in.....will you be able to get a real wide tire off and back on.....if you got a flat on the side of the road. When we were fitting mine using a car lift at the dealership.....there was no way we could put my 335 tires off/on with a regular jack on the side of the road....the bump stop mount was in the way.

You would have to have two jacks with you....one to lift the car, so the tire would come off the ground, but also one to lift the axle and lower the axle to reposition where the bumpstop is....as you are trying to pull the tire off and put it on. You would have to slide the tire on as you dropped the car down towards the axle slowly as you lined up the studs to slide it on and angle the tire so the rim clears the bumpstop....everything in motion at the same time.. Pain in the *** with two people....but we stopped trying. Not sure we even could have pulled it off.

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No I meant welding new bump stops way inwards of the chassis, not anywhere near where they are factory, not next to the wheel tub or the tires. There's a strong chassis rail part on the inside of where both of the coil springs sit, where you can weld new bump stop brackets. I don't have a pic right now to show you what I mean. I'm sure if I've thought of it, someone else has already put new bump stops there on a tubbed 4th gen.
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Originally Posted by Launch
Founders with heim joints both ends. I think most of the lca brands are similar, but you need the heim joint style, and the offset spacers to go with it, the spacers are different lengths and fit on each side of the heim joints so it offset the lca inwards. The short spacer goes on the inside.
I spoke to Founders, they confused the hell out of me. They have these under 93-02 Camaro....and you can see the offset sleeves installed. ----BUT....they said those are a picture of Mustang Offset LCAs.

https://www.foundersperformance.com/...-arms-rod-rod/

But when I called to ask about them they said they do not offer offset LCAs for 93-02 F-Body.....they only offer the offset sleeves. Then you take those offset sleeves and install them into other LCAs.

I would think I could use the Founders LCAs and then just buy the offset sleeves from them...and they can be installed into the LCAs.

What does "hiem" mean?

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LAUNCH......

Founders told me to buy their LCAs....then buy the UMI Offset Inserts and just install them on the Founders LCAs.

http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...roducts_id=108

This is pretty good way to go too.

But what LCAs and inserts did you actually buy?

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This are what you need:

https://www.foundersperformance.com/...ware=no-thanks

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