A good reason to drive on DRs!
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Staging Lane
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From: SW Ohio
A good reason to drive on DRs! After this weekend, I think my M/T drag radials are going back on the Z28 and staying there for the summer. With the regular radial tires (Kuhmo 712s), this car spins first gear like nothing and will continue the spinning through most of second gear -- till somewhere over 40 mph. Probably like most other LS1 F-bodies. This is all fun and good in a straight line, but when the car is a little sideways in first from pulling out onto a road and then speed shifting into second things get interesting in a hurry. I got really sideways and had to quickly shut down before the car could come around further than could be saved! 
The M/T drag radials stick so well that these sort of near-off-road-experiences will not happen!
They do have a little more sidewall flex, but I don't need to be cornering like a fool either.
The M/T drag radials stick so well that these sort of near-off-road-experiences will not happen!
They do have a little more sidewall flex, but I don't need to be cornering like a fool either.
Originally Posted by badtexasZ28
either way i am going with sumitomo HTR Z II's for my next set, in the 285-35-18 variety in the rear and 245-40-18's in the front
Originally Posted by Xsta Z 28
Using drag tires daily is not a wise choice, because rain could catch you in a very bad way.
I've heard the BFG Drag radials are not good in the wet with or without tread. I can't say for sure as I don't have any personal experience using them.
I can't keep spending $800 every 6 months for Nittos R's, so I'm going to try the GY GS-D3's. The 315 size is a bit more expensive, but they should last much longer and therefore save me money in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Xsta Z 28
How about drive more sensibly on the road? . . . .
What do you expect the car to do if you go around speed-shifting into 2nd while taking a turn onto a road?
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Staging Lane
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From: SW Ohio
OK, a little more back ground...just trying to give a little advice on what can get the car out of shape.
Turned left onto rural highway and rolled into the throttle through the turn. Car gets a little sideways in first gear, but the big difference is the car is drifting to the right -- whereas when taking off in a straight line, the car drifts to the left. So when I quickly grab second gear and continue to spin, the car swaps extra far to the left. This caught me by surprise, exspecially since it did not drive out of the drift. So I let up and the car straightened out.
As far as the "drive sensibly" suggestions:
This car is my "fun" car. I drive it about five miles a couple times a week around the country roads near my house. I have a nice plebian-mobile for my 300 miles/week of commuting and regular driving. This car is for driving in a spirited manner once in a while to have some fun. This is the first time the car got squirely on me in probably over 100 WOT jaunts so I thought I would share the experience and what a solution might be to avoid it -- other than the "don't do that" advice.
Why even have one of these cars if you don't jump on the gas almost every time you come to a stop or even slow down?
Turned left onto rural highway and rolled into the throttle through the turn. Car gets a little sideways in first gear, but the big difference is the car is drifting to the right -- whereas when taking off in a straight line, the car drifts to the left. So when I quickly grab second gear and continue to spin, the car swaps extra far to the left. This caught me by surprise, exspecially since it did not drive out of the drift. So I let up and the car straightened out.
As far as the "drive sensibly" suggestions:
This car is my "fun" car. I drive it about five miles a couple times a week around the country roads near my house. I have a nice plebian-mobile for my 300 miles/week of commuting and regular driving. This car is for driving in a spirited manner once in a while to have some fun. This is the first time the car got squirely on me in probably over 100 WOT jaunts so I thought I would share the experience and what a solution might be to avoid it -- other than the "don't do that" advice.
Why even have one of these cars if you don't jump on the gas almost every time you come to a stop or even slow down?
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The Kuhmo's like the stock F1's are pretty much **** tires. High performance Summer tires would be fine. Hell I can barely even light the tires up with the D3's. I heard the BFG KD's are pretty nice too.
I use the Goodyear Eagle Ultra HP Plus tires on my formula with great wet road traction. The tires hook pretty good in wet and dry conditions. I do have an auto though so I guess that helps.
I like my Firehawks, they hooked decently when my car was bolt-on. Now with a bit more power from the cam etc 1st gear is junk, and so is second lol. Nittos are coming my way
i have the 712's and they spin constantly. I gunned it one time pulling out of my street and my car went completely sideways. I tried to save it and I had it for a second then it swung the other way and then I went up a bank into someones front yard. BTW it was the day after christmas this year, my mom was with me and I was 16 at the time, not good. I would credit that $4500 incident to the tires because that shouldve happened.
Originally Posted by StealthFormula
i have the 712's and they spin constantly. I gunned it one time pulling out of my street and my car went completely sideways. I tried to save it and I had it for a second then it swung the other way and then I went up a bank into someones front yard. BTW it was the day after christmas this year, my mom was with me and I was 16 at the time, not good. I would credit that $4500 incident to the tires because that shouldve happened.
BTW, you could benifit from better tires. You shouldn't have to constanty work at keeping the car on the road. Maybe even mom would help with a little loan so you can get high end tires.
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Yanno...... I never really thought drag radials made THAT much of a difference...... but I put some falken 245/50/16's(on my stock wheels) back in the winter of 03/04 and left em on till early spring and drove the car some. I stopped one day just gunna try em out from a 5mph roll........ HA HA I left some black marks about 150 feet long and it literally spun all the way into 4th gear(just stayed in it and let her keep spinning). It would have been a GREAT picture if I would have had some1 around to take a pic.
Josh S.
Josh S.
I have goodyear gsd3s and they are seriously the best dry/wet tire Ive ever driven on.. Go on tire rack and look at how they are rated and the reviews they got. They are not joking about what they say either. Back when my car was a low 12 sec high 11 car I could still give ita little less than 3/4 throttle and dead hook in the rain in first gear. Also they last longer than any tire that sticks as well as they do if youd like to see what they look like just go to my site in sig
Originally Posted by 97M6Formula
I have goodyear gsd3s and they are seriously the best dry/wet tire Ive ever driven on.. Go on tire rack and look at how they are rated and the reviews they got. They are not joking about what they say either. Back when my car was a low 12 sec high 11 car I could still give ita little less than 3/4 throttle and dead hook in the rain in first gear. Also they last longer than any tire that sticks as well as they do if youd like to see what they look like just go to my site in sig
AGREED!
