ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers
10-14-2003, 09:31 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers Also I don't know if you guys have seen but you can replace the head unit and still retain the steering wheel controls. PAC makes a converter and the installation is very easy.
Just trying to offer new ideas sorry if you have seen this before.
Just trying to offer new ideas sorry if you have seen this before.
10-14-2003, 09:36 PM
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Ferocity: Cut the harnesses off the factory subs.. theres a long and a short pair of wires... Use the LONG pair to connect the subs.
10-14-2003, 10:04 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers
Ferocity: Cut the harnesses off the factory subs.. theres a long and a short pair of wires... Use the LONG pair to connect the subs.
10-14-2003, 10:06 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers
just so you know if the tweeter is xover at a higher frequency than the mid is then you will only achive a 2ohm load when both speakers play the same frequency at the same time.
10-14-2003, 10:09 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers
Also I don't know if you guys have seen but you can replace the head unit and still retain the steering wheel controls. PAC makes a converter and the installation is very easy.
Just trying to offer new ideas sorry if you have seen this before.
Just trying to offer new ideas sorry if you have seen this before.
Changing the HU defeats the purpose of this though.. just showing a cheap way to add better sound, and changing the HU isnt cheap nor would it sound better without upgrading the speakers anyway....
10-14-2003, 10:11 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers If you are worried which wire to connect to which terminal it is not that hard to figure out. Cut the speaker wire but leave a few inches on the speaker side. Now using a battery (9v works fine) now connect the terminals from the battery to the two speakers wires. Pay attentiong to which speaker wire is on which terminal. If the speaker POPS outward, goes up then it is in phase. If it is in phase then the wire attached to the positive post of the battery is the positve terminal of the speaker and of the amp. The other wire will be negative. If the speaker moves inward then it is out of phase and reverse the two wires. Match the colors from the speaker to the wires from the amp and you will know positive and negative.
10-14-2003, 10:58 PM
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If you are worried which wire to connect to which terminal it is not that hard to figure out. Cut the speaker wire but leave a few inches on the speaker side. Now using a battery (9v works fine) now connect the terminals from the battery to the two speakers wires. Pay attentiong to which speaker wire is on which terminal. If the speaker POPS outward, goes up then it is in phase. If it is in phase then the wire attached to the positive post of the battery is the positve terminal of the speaker and of the amp. The other wire will be negative. If the speaker moves inward then it is out of phase and reverse the two wires. Match the colors from the speaker to the wires from the amp and you will know positive and negative.
10-15-2003, 07:22 AM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers If you have two gren wires mark one wire in two places with a sharpie. Then cut the wires so that both sides have a marked piece. Meaning the amp side, the piece of wire that stays in the car, and the speaker side, the piece of wire that leaves the car. Now you can tell the two apart and now do the pop test.
10-16-2003, 09:15 AM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers Would the alpine 170's + JL6W0 + the stock rear fill work? I just don't want to waste money on speakers install them and then find out a month later that they are blown because they did not work with the monsoon system. I have done this before with a 93 camaro that had a Bose system. I hookeed up a set of 6.5 rockford co-ax and I got this wierd noise from them allt the time.
10-16-2003, 05:31 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers
Would the alpine 170's + JL6W0 + the stock rear fill work? I just don't want to waste money on speakers install them and then find out a month later that they are blown because they did not work with the monsoon system. I have done this before with a 93 camaro that had a Bose system. I hookeed up a set of 6.5 rockford co-ax and I got this wierd noise from them allt the time.
10-16-2003, 10:27 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers I will be receiving my Rockford Fosgate 6-3/4" subs soon, and I know the stock Monsoon amp cannot get all the power out of the subs, if there is even an amp.... What can I do for cheap to mke sure I'm getting the most out of the subs?
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10-16-2003, 10:34 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers
I will be receiving my Rockford Fosgate 6-3/4" subs soon, and I know the stock Monsoon amp cannot get all the power out of the subs, if there is even an amp.... What can I do for cheap to mke sure I'm getting the most out of the subs?
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10-17-2003, 05:50 PM
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Re: ATTN: People who want to replace or upgrade Monsoon Speakers I've heard this same question asked countless times too. Thanks for the upgrade idea. I have a blown speaker (again) but audio isn't important enough to me to spend big bucks on, I'd rather get more mod's. For $250 this sounds like a great upgrade!
This really ought to be made a stick for a while or go in the archive.
This really ought to be made a stick for a while or go in the archive.
10-28-2003, 12:45 PM
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Rogue Leader,
By the looks of it, us camaro guys (and gals), don't have the component speakers stock on our monsoon systems (unless it is hidden behind the door panel), like you ta people do. So which speakers should I go with to replace the door speakers? Coaxials or components (brand and model #'s), and which wires would I use to hook them up? In some previous threads there was a mention of two sets of wires to use. I believe one was a mids and lows and the other set was for highs. If I were to replace them with coaxials, shouldn't I need both mids and highs? Thanks for your time and forgive my ignorance on the monsoon system.
By the looks of it, us camaro guys (and gals), don't have the component speakers stock on our monsoon systems (unless it is hidden behind the door panel), like you ta people do. So which speakers should I go with to replace the door speakers? Coaxials or components (brand and model #'s), and which wires would I use to hook them up? In some previous threads there was a mention of two sets of wires to use. I believe one was a mids and lows and the other set was for highs. If I were to replace them with coaxials, shouldn't I need both mids and highs? Thanks for your time and forgive my ignorance on the monsoon system.
10-28-2003, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigvic
Rogue Leader,
By the looks of it, us camaro guys (and gals), don't have the component speakers stock on our monsoon systems (unless it is hidden behind the door panel), like you ta people do. So which speakers should I go with to replace the door speakers? Coaxials or components (brand and model #'s), and which wires would I use to hook them up? In some previous threads there was a mention of two sets of wires to use. I believe one was a mids and lows and the other set was for highs. If I were to replace them with coaxials, shouldn't I need both mids and highs? Thanks for your time and forgive my ignorance on the monsoon system.
By the looks of it, us camaro guys (and gals), don't have the component speakers stock on our monsoon systems (unless it is hidden behind the door panel), like you ta people do. So which speakers should I go with to replace the door speakers? Coaxials or components (brand and model #'s), and which wires would I use to hook them up? In some previous threads there was a mention of two sets of wires to use. I believe one was a mids and lows and the other set was for highs. If I were to replace them with coaxials, shouldn't I need both mids and highs? Thanks for your time and forgive my ignorance on the monsoon system.
The Alpine Coaxials will work fine...
10-31-2003, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue Leader
Hmm well the Monsoon in the camaro is only 200 watts while the TA is 500... so Im assuming the Monsoon Subs in the Camaro arent DVC like the Trans Am... Looking at the houston spec sheets looks like that too... So just use those that are there.
WRONG. The wattage of the Monsoon amp depends on the year of your camaro.
The latter model year camaro's do have the larger amp, but it is NOT a 500w amp, The 500w number is referring to peak system power (total system power is amp + head unit power)...
The Camaro does NOT have the same speakers as the TA. (this may be why we blow so many)
Does the houston spec sheet that you are referring to have a date on it?
We need to make sure we post accurate info...
10-31-2003, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyZ28
WRONG. The wattage of the Monsoon amp depends on the year of your camaro.
The latter model year camaro's do have the larger amp, but it is NOT a 500w amp, The 500w number is referring to peak system power (total system power is amp + head unit power)...
The Camaro does NOT have the same speakers as the TA. (this may be why we blow so many)
Does the houston spec sheet that you are referring to have a date on it?
We need to make sure we post accurate info...
The latter model year camaro's do have the larger amp, but it is NOT a 500w amp, The 500w number is referring to peak system power (total system power is amp + head unit power)...
The Camaro does NOT have the same speakers as the TA. (this may be why we blow so many)
Does the houston spec sheet that you are referring to have a date on it?
We need to make sure we post accurate info...
Secondly, no the camaro doesnt have the same exact setup but it IS similar, and the speakers are constructed by the same people. The Camaro apparently Lower powered being that the speakers are different (including SVC subs instea dof DVC) and the camaro setup doent include the rear tweeters just full range 4 inch speakers in the back. Plus the camaro was advertised as having only a "200w" system. They wouldnt run the same amp with different speakers, it (even in GM's infinite wisdom) just isnt logical.
This is the tech sheets...
http://www.houston-f-body.org/tech/monsoon/
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Originally Posted by Rogue Leader
Ok there calm down... First off its common knowledge that they rate the "setup" 500w at peak power, its a lot easier to refer to it that way than to explain it every time. Thanks for re-stating the obvious though.
Secondly, no the camaro doesnt have the same exact setup but it IS similar, and the speakers are constructed by the same people. The Camaro apparently Lower powered being that the speakers are different (including SVC subs instea dof DVC) and the camaro setup doent include the rear tweeters just full range 4 inch speakers in the back. Plus the camaro was advertised as having only a "200w" system. They wouldnt run the same amp with different speakers, it (even in GM's infinite wisdom) just isnt logical.
This is the tech sheets...
http://www.houston-f-body.org/tech/monsoon/
Secondly, no the camaro doesnt have the same exact setup but it IS similar, and the speakers are constructed by the same people. The Camaro apparently Lower powered being that the speakers are different (including SVC subs instea dof DVC) and the camaro setup doent include the rear tweeters just full range 4 inch speakers in the back. Plus the camaro was advertised as having only a "200w" system. They wouldnt run the same amp with different speakers, it (even in GM's infinite wisdom) just isnt logical.
This is the tech sheets...
http://www.houston-f-body.org/tech/monsoon/
On page 37 (standards & options page), It says:
Stereo: AM/FM, Monsoon 500-watt (peak) sound system with CD player
Camaro = optional, Z28 = Standard, SS = Standard,
Camaro Convertible = Standard
While YOUR particular Camaro may have the 200w 'system', Not ALL Camaro's are created equal. In the latter model years they DID start using the larger amp, but did NOT change the speakers. TA's and WS6's have superior speakers.
Maybe this is why we seem to be blowing so many speakers? What YEAR is your Camaro?
If seeing the 'Buyers Guide' does not convince you that you are wrong here, then maybe we should talk about RPO codes, and about how anyone can look up their code to see EXACTLY which system they have. Have you even checked your RPO code? Have you even noticed that the RPO codes for the stereo change a little in 2001/2002? Duh...
As far as your comment: "They wouldnt run the same amp with different speakers, it (even in GM's infinite wisdom) just isnt logical"
The KEY word here is 'Bean Counter'
EXTRA stuff (like better speakers) cost EXTRA money.
Yeah, It sucks, but It happens. You gotta love the things big companies will do to SAVE/MAKE money...
People with the TA's and WS6's spent a few more bones on their rides, and guess what? They got a few more 'bells and whistles' for their EXTRA money.
That is just the way things work. Nothing is free...
I actually think GM had a great idea (upgrading the amp and NOT the speakers)
The stereo can be 'advertised' as having a higher power 'system' but at a much lower cost than changing out (or upgrading) the whole thing. Isn't marketing great? Cool little tricks to make more MONEY!
As far as those 'Tech Files' go, Do you have any clue when that page was last updated? Do you really believe everything that you read online? Was this page published by GM?
There is only one correct answer here... Nope
Please PM me an e-mail address so that I can send you that scan, Maybe if you read it for yourself you would KNOW.
James