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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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I just bought this car, but now sometimes when I get in to start it, nothing happens. Push in the clutch, key in the ignition, dash lights light up, no start. Pull key out and it says "security" on the gauge cluster. Lock the car, wait a few minutes, security light goes out, repeat process. Sometimes I have to do this three or four times before it will start.
Also, don't know if this has anything to do with it, but when I finally do get it to start, my trip meter has reset itself.

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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Have you tried cleaning the resistor on the ignition key? The little black spot on it.
It might be going out.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Yeah, just tried cleaning the key with rubbing alcohol. Its nice and shiny now, but the car still wouldn't start.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Weird, I only get the "security" thing when my battery dies. Maybe a connection is loose somewhere?
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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The security light on the dash is for the VATS (Vehicle Anti Theft System) and is unrelated to the alarm system (which GM considers a "contents" anti theft system). The light comes on when the Body Control Module (BCM) can't validate that the correct ignition key is being used because it can't read the resistor in the key or it reads the wrong resistance value. This is often caused by dirt on the resistor pellet in the key but can also be caused by the pellet being too worn to make proper contact or a problem with the ignition switch contacts. Other causes could be a disconnected or broken wire from the ignition switch to the BCM or having the BCM replaced without getting it programmed to match the original key.

If you have another key, try that first. Also, try cleaning inside the ignition switch using a small swab and some rubbing alcohol. The system can be bypassed using a kit from your local stereo shop (used for remote start systems) cheaper than replacing the ignition switch if that ends up being the problem.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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The car left me stranded the other day, so it ended up at the dealership. They've had it two days now and said that it has started on the first crank every time, for a total so far of about 2 dozen tries. So, they said they are going to keep it for another day or so to see if they can replicate what it was doing.


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Old May 1, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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anyone know how to reactivate my alarm system? the led light indicator is there, i found the shock sensor? but i think the dealership where i bought it used somehow disconected it.a nd wanted to charge me over 500 just to have a stock alarm system
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My camaro did this. I wound up taking my key to the dealership to find out my VATs and then buying a GM key with the correct VAT number somewhere else. Then I had someone make the key. Problem was solved.
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Originally Posted by lferdzl
anyone know how to reactivate my alarm system? the led light indicator is there, i found the shock sensor? but i think the dealership where i bought it used somehow disconected it.a nd wanted to charge me over 500 just to have a stock alarm system

The shock sensor is above the rear passengers side wheel.


For that price I would get an aftermarket alarm because it would be much better and cheaper too.
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anyone know how to reactivate my alarm system? the led light indicator is there, i found the shock sensor? but i think the dealership where i bought it used somehow disconected it.a nd wanted to charge me over 500 just to have a stock alarm system
Since the factory alarm is contained in the BCM (which has other functions) I doubt that it has been removed - probably just turned off through programming. Here is the information from the owners manual on how to program the alarm system:


PROGRAMMING THE FACTORY ALARM


ENTERING PROGRAMMING MODE
To program features, the car must be in programming mode:

1) Turn key to RUN position.
2) Turn key to OFF position.
3) Remove the RADIO fuse in the main fuse panel.
4) Turn the key to ACC

You should hear a chime to verify that the system is in the programming mode.
1 chime means you can program Exit Lighting, Delayed Illumination, Last Door Closed Locking and Lock Out.
2 chimes means car is equipped with Content Theft-Deterrent System which means you can also program Remote Keyless Entry Verification, Arming Method, Arming Verification, Driver's Door Delay and Shock Sensor Enable.

EXIT LIGHTING & ILLUMINATION

With exit lighting, your interior lamps will come on for up to 25 sec. when the key is removed.
With Delay Illumination, your interior lamps will come on and stay on for up to 25 sec. when entering the car and up to 5 sec. when leaving the car.
To change the factory setting...
1) Turn the courtesy lamps on by turning the instrument panel brightness control **** all the way up.
2) Count the number of chimes you hear. The number of chimes tells you which mode you are in.
3) Turn the courtesy lamp switch off.
4) Turn the switch on and off until you hear the number of chimes that correspond to the mode you want to be in.

MODE 1 Both Off.
MODE 2 Delayed Illumination Only.
MODE 3 Exit Lighting Only.
MODE 4 Both On.

LAST DOOR LOCKING & LOCKOUT PREVENTION

To change the setting...
1) Press the LOCK switch on the door.
2) Count the number of chimes you hear. The number of chimes tells you which mode you are in.
3) Press the LOCK switch on the door until you hear the number of chimes for the mode you want to be in.

MODE 1 Both Off (Door will lock and unlock when you press the door lock switch)
MODE 2 Lockout Prevention Only (If you leave your keys in the ign. and leave thru the driver's door, you won't be able to lock the doors with the power door lock switch.)
MODE 3 Last Door Closed Only. (If the power door lock switch is used to lock the car while any door is open, you will hear 3 chimes. The doors will not lock until all the doors are closed.)
MODE 4 Both On. (This combines Mode 2 and 3.)

REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY VERIFICATION

To change this setting...
1) Press the UNLOCK button on the remote transmitter.
2) Count the number of chimes you hear. This tells you which mode you're in.
3) Press the UNLOCK button on the remote until you hear the number of chimes that correspond to the mode you want.

MODE 1 All Off. (The head lights will not flash and the horn will not sound)
MODE 2 Horn and Lamps/Lamps (Your horn will sound and your parking lights will flash when you press the LOCK button on the transmitter. Only the parking lamps will flash when you press UNLOCK)
MODE 3 Horn and Lamps (Your horn will sound and the parking lamps will flash every time you press LOCK or UNLOCK)
MODE 4 Lamps (The parking lamps will flash when you press LOCK or UNLOCK)
MODE 5 Lamps/Horn and Lamps (Lamps will flash on the first press on LOCK, your lamps will flash and the horn will sound on the second press on LOCK and the lamps will flash any time you press UNLOCK)

THEFT-DETERENT VERIFICATION

To change this setting...
1) Press the LOCK button on the remote.
2) Count the number of chimes you hear.
3) Press the LOCK button on the remote until you hear the number of chimes you want.

MODE 1 All Off (No horn chirp or lamp flash)
MODE 2 Horn and Lamps (Your lamps will flash and the horn will chirp twice)
MODE 3 Horn and Lamps/Lamps (If you use the remote to arm the system, your lamps will flash and the horn will chirp twice to verify the system is armed. If it only chirps once, the hatch is open or unlatched. If you use either the power door lock switch or passive arming, only the lamps will flash for verification)

THEFT DETERENT ARMING METHOD

To change this setting...
1) Press the UNLOCK switch on the door.
2) Count the number of chimes
3) Press the UNLOCK switch on the door until you are in the mode you want.

MODE 1 Alarm System Off (System will not arm)
MODE 2 Remote Keyless Entry Transmitter Lock (When you lock the doors using the remote, the system will arm itself)
MODE 3 Remote Keyless Entry Transmitter/Power Door Lock Switch (If you use the remote or the popwer door lock switch to lock the doors, the system will arm)
MODE 4 Passive Armin and Remote Keyless Entry Transmitter/Power Door Lock Switch Arming (The system will arm itself after all doors are closed plus arming per MODE 3)

DRIVER'S DOOR ALARM DELAY AND SHOCK SENSOR ENABLE

To change this setting...
1) Turn the parking lamps on and off
2) Count the chimes
3) Turn the parking lamps on and off until you hear the number of chimes you want

MODE 1 Zero Delay and Sensor Disabled (The alarm will sound immediately if the driver's door is opened with your key and the shock sensor will be disabled)
MODE 2 8 Second Delay and Shock Sensor Disabled (The alarm will sound 8 seconds after the driver's door is opened with your key and the shock sensor will be disabled)
MODE 3 Zero Delay and Shock Sensor Enabled (The alarm will sound immediately after the driver's door is opened with your key and the shock sensor will be active)
MODE 4 8 Second Delay and Shock Sensor Enabled (The alarm will sound 8 seconds after the driver's door is opened with your key and the shock sensor will be active)

LEAVING PROGRAM MODE

When programming is done, turn the ignition to OFF and replace the RADIO fuse.
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