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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:45 AM
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looking to replace speakers and noticed 4 wires.would I find pairs and put together or use just one set to wire new speakers?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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You would use one pair of wires to the new speakers. Bridging the pairs doesn't work very well. I'm not sure why.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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In a camaro with the moonsoon sysem. The front doors have 2 pair of speaker wires. One if for he tweeter, the other is for the midbass speaker.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:12 AM
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I've been in the process of up-grade the speakers in my Z28 to a 4 ohm sys.(due the blown front driver's side door spk.) and thought I had her done. But then, I noticed the 3-ways(in the rear seat) wasn't doing much. Then, I found out the rear seat speakers should be for the mids/subs. So now, I'm gonna swap out the 3-ways. In favor of, another set of components(like is in the doors) and just not hook up the tweeters.

Guess, this is the result of the bridging that, HiTech mentioned. I didn't do the install of the 3-ways(the front door components work great). The local JBL auth. shop did it and I beleive they screwed it up @ less in the rear seat installation depart.(haven't got to the rear hatch subs yet.) Someone else on the board here, suggested using the infinity 62.7i's. Due to their having the daul connection just for this purpose.

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Don B 02 Z28
I've been in the process of up-grade the speakers in my Z28 to a 4 ohm sys.(due the blown front driver's side door spk.) and thought I had her done. But then, I noticed the 3-ways(in the rear seat) wasn't doing much. Then, I found out the rear seat speakers should be for the mids/subs. So now, I'm gonna swap out the 3-ways. In favor of, another set of components(like is in the doors) and just not hook up the tweeters.

Guess, this is the result of the bridging that, HiTech mentioned. I didn't do the install of the 3-ways(the front door components work great). The local JBL auth. shop did it and I beleive they screwed it up @ less in the rear seat installation depart.(haven't got to the rear hatch subs yet.) Someone else on the board here, suggested using the infinity 62.7i's. Due to their having the daul connection just for this purpose.

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No. The 3-ways don't work in the back seat most likely because the Monsoon amp has internal crossovers low-passed to the sail panel speakers. They do not see the full sound spectrum.

The Monsoon System is different for Camaros and F'birds, in that the sail speakers in F'birds are dual voice coil (hence 4 wires instead of 2). The Camaro sail speakers are not. The 4 wires are ran directly to the amp, apparently on separate channels. Folks who have tried tieing the 2 pairs together, have reported poor results. So it is recommended that you should only use 1 pair when hooking up SVC replacements.

In Camaros, you should only have 1 pair of wires to each speaker, so there should not be any confusion.

Don,

Remember, the Monsoon system does not put out alot of power. You want speakers that have a power rating of 40W to 50W RMS. If you drop in 300W speakers you'll barely hear a whisper when the volume is cranked up all the way (and a mighty distorted whisper at that). Sensitivity should be 91dB (1W/1M) or higher. Don't get too hung up about 2 ohm vs. 4ohm. A good 4 ohm speaker beats a mediocre 2 ohm speaker any day. And will be just as loud.

Several folks have reported good results with the KAPPA 62.7's in the doors. I don't know if anyone has tried them in the sail panels. Myself, I'm leaning towards getting a pair of Audiobahn AMD60Q's for the back seat.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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There are many threads about the best rear seat speakers to use. Just do a little search and you'll find the information you need.

Just my $0.02... but I don't think it is worth spending component speaker levels of money for these replacements. By doing the search I think you'll find information to $40 range DVC drivers that are what you need.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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The only DVC 6.5" driver I know of is the EU-700. But the one thread about them seemed to indicate they were not a good choice for Monsoon replacements.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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thanks for the tips.replaced with sony xplods( for the red color) then peeled off some of the material off back of stock grille.sounds good but the 4 wires confused me(didn't want to fry something by bridging)buddies camaro only had two wires.Thinking of replacing rest of speakers now,but still find myself with radio down listening to that ls1 scream. Thanks again for the help!
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Another issue other then the rear seat speakers. Just received my new 4in (4 ohm, JBL)GT42's(40w rms/80 peak, w/ the sensitivity of 91dB for the hatch area. Hopefully this will eliminate the ringing coming from the 2 ohm Monsoon 4in. To me(and one of my co-worker) it sounds like the 4in subs are drownin out the other speakers, even the front doors components, right now.

Anyhoo, I'm, also, considering swappin out the GTO636 3-ways. In favor of, a pair of the P650c's(90w rms/270 peak, w/ the sensitivity of 90dB) in the rear seat area and just not hook up the tweeters. By either just leavin this connection on the crossover MT or maybe just installin a jumper. How should it be wired, in this type of operation? I'm not really sure on this issue.

Course, I'm guess the P650c's might be alill on the overkill side for the stock sys. But, I mainly like the P650c's over say the GTO606c (90w rms/270 peak w/ the sensitivity of 90dB, similar to the ones I have in the front doors, now). B-cuz of their power capacity, I guess. Since, they are basicly the same except, for the power rating. Unless I shelled out the big $$$ for a pair of the 6.5in JBL GTi series speakers.

Thanks and here's wishin you all a very Merry Xmas.

Later,
Don

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