Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . .
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Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . Ok, so out of nowhere a few weeks ago, my window wouldn't go down.
So I bought a new motor.
I removed the old one, and plugged in the new one, but not installed in the door yet.
It would only power it one way (up, I think).
In any case, I figured that maybe there was something internally that had to "trip" or reset to allow the motor to go the other way.
We installed the motor. . .it moved the window up 1" (the final way to the top), and it stopped. Now it won't power it back downwards.
Neither the driver's side or pass. side will do it.
We unplugged each switch while trying the other, and nothing.
Any ideas/guesses?
So I bought a new motor.
I removed the old one, and plugged in the new one, but not installed in the door yet.
It would only power it one way (up, I think).
In any case, I figured that maybe there was something internally that had to "trip" or reset to allow the motor to go the other way.
We installed the motor. . .it moved the window up 1" (the final way to the top), and it stopped. Now it won't power it back downwards.
Neither the driver's side or pass. side will do it.
We unplugged each switch while trying the other, and nothing.
Any ideas/guesses?
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Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . Well. . . guess I'll add to my own post. . . and if I find out what the problem is, I'll just delete it since you guys apparently have NOT INTEREST!
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I'll be checking out the power window control module tomorrow night. . .anyone have any experiences w/ that?
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I'll be checking out the power window control module tomorrow night. . .anyone have any experiences w/ that?
Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . I'd bet your switch is cracked. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Take the switch out of the plastic panel in the door, and look at the sides of the rocker. There's probably a crack in that switch on one side, which lets it activate for one direction, but not the other.
The other possibility is the express down module is bad. I've actually got a spare one sitting at home. Lemme know if your switch isn't bad, and I'll hook you up on the express down module.
Take the switch out of the plastic panel in the door, and look at the sides of the rocker. There's probably a crack in that switch on one side, which lets it activate for one direction, but not the other.
The other possibility is the express down module is bad. I've actually got a spare one sitting at home. Lemme know if your switch isn't bad, and I'll hook you up on the express down module.
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Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . thanks for the reply & offer.
Thing is. . . neither switch from the driver's side or pass. side works.
This is the pass. side window.
Thing is. . . neither switch from the driver's side or pass. side works.
This is the pass. side window.
Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mgreen:
<strong>Neither the driver's side or pass. side will do it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I must've misinterpretted that part...
What about a siezed regulator? Or maybe the window came off it's track? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
<strong>Neither the driver's side or pass. side will do it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I must've misinterpretted that part...
What about a siezed regulator? Or maybe the window came off it's track? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . I think you are right with the power window control module. I once took apart my door to look at the window motor when the driver side window was stuck - thinking it was the motor. But when I hit the switch I heard clicking under the dash. I knew then it wasn't the motor. But after I put the door back together, the window started working again so I never looked into the module. Keep us updated because I might have to do the same thing.
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Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . Well, the pass. side switch is definitely bad.
I got hold of a schematic & started jumping voltage & ground to different points, and sure enough, the window went up & down.
We checked the switch separate then. . . jumping 2 points together, and then another 2, pushing the button, and sure enough, it wouldn't work for the down direction.
Now I need to find a switch.
The weird thing is, the driver's side switch doesn't operate the pass. side right now, and I can't see how the pass. side switch would affect the driver's side.
So, I guess I'll be replacing one switch at a time.
Just need to find them somewhere!
Mike
I got hold of a schematic & started jumping voltage & ground to different points, and sure enough, the window went up & down.
We checked the switch separate then. . . jumping 2 points together, and then another 2, pushing the button, and sure enough, it wouldn't work for the down direction.
Now I need to find a switch.
The weird thing is, the driver's side switch doesn't operate the pass. side right now, and I can't see how the pass. side switch would affect the driver's side.
So, I guess I'll be replacing one switch at a time.
Just need to find them somewhere!
Mike
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Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mgreen:
<strong> Well, the pass. side switch is definitely bad.
I got hold of a schematic & started jumping voltage & ground to different points, and sure enough, the window went up & down.
We checked the switch separate then. . . jumping 2 points together, and then another 2, pushing the button, and sure enough, it wouldn't work for the down direction.
Now I need to find a switch.
The weird thing is, the driver's side switch doesn't operate the pass. side right now, and I can't see how the pass. side switch would affect the driver's side.
So, I guess I'll be replacing one switch at a time.
Just need to find them somewhere!
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">never took apart, or know how the switch works. (sends a ground?), but maybe if its broken and its always sending the ground? its making the drivers side not work. like if somebody in the pasenger seat keeps trying to roll down the window, and they are holding the switch down, and you press yours up, it wont work, until they let go....
<strong> Well, the pass. side switch is definitely bad.
I got hold of a schematic & started jumping voltage & ground to different points, and sure enough, the window went up & down.
We checked the switch separate then. . . jumping 2 points together, and then another 2, pushing the button, and sure enough, it wouldn't work for the down direction.
Now I need to find a switch.
The weird thing is, the driver's side switch doesn't operate the pass. side right now, and I can't see how the pass. side switch would affect the driver's side.
So, I guess I'll be replacing one switch at a time.
Just need to find them somewhere!
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">never took apart, or know how the switch works. (sends a ground?), but maybe if its broken and its always sending the ground? its making the drivers side not work. like if somebody in the pasenger seat keeps trying to roll down the window, and they are holding the switch down, and you press yours up, it wont work, until they let go....
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Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . my boyfriends window was going real slow and we thought it was the motor we took it to the shop and they cleaned it out really good, the inside and around the motor and everything, works brand new.
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Re: Power Window problems. . . thought it was motor, isn't. . . it turned out being the driver's side switch.
We checked & double-checked the switch & wires going to the pass. side, and it looked like all the pos. voltage & grounds were in the right spots. . . and we even jumped them and got the window to go up and down.
Then when we checked the pass. side switch, it appeared it wasn't doing what it was supposed to. . . I replaced the switch, and nothging.
So, I replaced the driver's side switch, and kept my original pass. switch in place, and it works good now.
<small>[ April 21, 2003, 06:23 AM: Message edited by: mgreen ]</small>
We checked & double-checked the switch & wires going to the pass. side, and it looked like all the pos. voltage & grounds were in the right spots. . . and we even jumped them and got the window to go up and down.
Then when we checked the pass. side switch, it appeared it wasn't doing what it was supposed to. . . I replaced the switch, and nothging.
So, I replaced the driver's side switch, and kept my original pass. switch in place, and it works good now.
<small>[ April 21, 2003, 06:23 AM: Message edited by: mgreen ]</small>
