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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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does anyone know if the GM factory mp3 players will work in the f-bodys, plugs the same, etc.? Are there any aftermarket mp3 cd player that you dont have to rewire the speakers? Thanks

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All current GM radios that are MP3 capable are double DIN and our dash opening is only 1.5 DIN. I've heard that the Pontiac Vibe (yes, that ugly thing) had a 1.5 DIN MP3 capable radio but that it has to be cross-wired to work.

Any aftermarket radio can be installed without rewiring the speakers. Just get a mounting kit, a wiring harness adapter, and an antenna plug adapter and it will plug right in.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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will the aftermarket cd players work with the monsoon amp still hooked up?
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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you wont need the monsoon amp if you get an aftermarket hu.
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There is absolutely nothing special about the Monsoon head unit - it's just an ordinary Delco radio with a Monsoon label on it. So yes, you can install an aftermarket head unit and it will work fine with the Monsoon amp and speakers. As I said earlier, just get the harness adapter, etc. and it will plug right in.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ggk
you wont need the monsoon amp if you get an aftermarket hu.
Eliminating the Monsoon amp from the system involves rewiring to bypass it. While it's true that you don't really need the amp with an aftermarket head unit, it's more trouble to rewire than it's worth.
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So if you had an aftermarket head unit would it sound better if you are running the speakers off the unit or the monsoon amp.
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8 speakers wires are easy to run.
the fronts runn thought the kick panels to the doors and the rears throught the sail panel things the go on the back pilars.
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The Monsoon amp is actually one of the better parts of the entire system - the head unit and speakers are the source of most problems. Another consideration is that you really should replace the speakers if you're planning to run them directly off the head unit. This is because they are a mix of 2-ohm and 4-ohm and most aftermarket head units aren't 2-ohm stable.

I would recommend leaving the amp in place and just changing the HU unless you also want to replace the speakers and rewire.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
All current GM radios that are MP3 capable are double DIN and our dash opening is only 1.5 DIN. I've heard that the Pontiac Vibe (yes, that ugly thing) had a 1.5 DIN MP3 capable radio but that it has to be cross-wired to work.

Any aftermarket radio can be installed without rewiring the speakers. Just get a mounting kit, a wiring harness adapter, and an antenna plug adapter and it will plug right in.
What do you mean by cross-wired?
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Just replace the head unit.

People crap on the monsoon amp but their assumptions are wrong. That amp puts out more power than any of the standard head unit amps, more channels and better headroom. The only exception (possibly) to that statement are the Panasonic head units with the digital amps.

If you intend to keep the monsoon speakers it is an absolute no brainer. Just change the head unit out and be done with it. You should keep the monsoon amp in the picture until you want to work with aftermarket amplification.

Anyone who says differently is making assumptions that are not correct.

Even if you intend to use aftermarket speakers you are still better off using the monsoon amp, though some understanding of how things are hooked up is necessary to be sure the correct connections are made.

Many people just plug in aftermarket speakers without understanding the wiring arrangement and get bad sound - so they assume the monsoon amp is crap. It's not.

Post up what you want to do and we'll help you out.
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Originally Posted by BigE
What do you mean by cross-wired?
The connector used by the newer Vibe radio isn't the same as the harness in our cars so you have to get the proper harness adapter from a stereo shop and then cross connect the wires from the harness into their proper pin positions for the new radio.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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The vibe radio and newer gm will not work anyway bc they are bcm controlled. These radios do not have an ign wire they receive a wake up signal from the bcm and after the key is turned off they go to sleep a while after the key is turned off.
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Originally Posted by 01WS6/tamu
The vibe radio and newer gm will not work anyway bc they are bcm controlled. These radios do not have an ign wire they receive a wake up signal from the bcm and after the key is turned off they go to sleep a while after the key is turned off.
Actually, the Vibe radio is the exception. Unlike the double DIN radios used in most recent GM vehicles, the Vibe radio is 1.5 DIN and uses standard connections (power, ground, speakers, etc.).
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Is it only certain years or models of the Vibe that have this radio?


I like the factory appearance in my Formula, but would like the capability to play MP3's, but more importantly, an input for satellite radio. With the PIE adaptor on a CD changer port, I think I could do it.
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Not that I'll change from my Pioneer MP3, but whats the Vibe deck look like?
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A quick search yielded this.
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Is it me, or is that deck taller on the driver side o_0

Looks Double Din too...

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My bad - that head unit is double DIN. I was trying to remember a thread I'd read about installing a factory GM MP3 player in an F-body. The Vibe radio had been mentioned because it is the only recent GM head unit to be available with MP3 capability (or nav, or in-dash changer) that still used conventional connections rather than class-2 signals. I thought it was a direct fit but in fact the original poster had to modify the trim somewhat to make the double DIN HU fit in the 1.5 DIN opening.

So, getting back to the original question - no, there isn't a newer model factory MP3 player that will bolt right in. The Vibe radio can be connected but it will require some dash modification to fit properly.
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