Kicker VS Alpine
Kicker VS Alpine Im trying to decide between two pairs of front componets,
6.5 type R Alpines
-or-
05RS652 6.5 kicker Componets
I can get all kicker stuff insanely cheap so thats why Im considering it .Just want to know how their stuff stacks up.
6.5 type R Alpines
-or-
05RS652 6.5 kicker Componets
I can get all kicker stuff insanely cheap so thats why Im considering it .Just want to know how their stuff stacks up.
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Alpines will probably be better sound quality. But if you can get the Kickers dirt cheap, I have heard the RS's and they are not bad at all. Depending on how cheap youo can get them, you might want to look into the Kicker ss65.2's. I have two pairs and they sound very good (although i wouldn't spend the MSRP of $600 a pair or whatever it is).
Originally Posted by bbal4now
Alpines will probably be better sound quality. But if you can get the Kickers dirt cheap, I have heard the RS's and they are not bad at all. Depending on how cheap youo can get them, you might want to look into the Kicker ss65.2's. I have two pairs and they sound very good (although i wouldn't spend the MSRP of $600 a pair or whatever it is).
The RS is their resolution line. That's been their cream of the crop until the SS line was introduced in 2004. The SS msrp is $1099 for 6.5s. Do some shopping. You can get alpine type r stuff cheap too. You just need to do some shopping.
As for the alpine folks. I bet half of you people never even heard a set of RS to even comment. Let alone a SS set.
Originally Posted by dragonrage
Alpine is probably a little better. How much can you get them for?
As long as its a good amp and clean signal how much wattage would you throw to either one of these.
I know of some speakers that are rated at 125 but could easily handle over 200 continuous if you cared to and was just wondring if the alpines or kickers are any different.
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My rainbows are rated at 100 watts rms and I give them like 60, anything more than that and they just get too loud 
It is nice to have headroom with an amp, but if you feed those components 200 watts it just might make your ears bleed lol. I wouldn't worry about giving them max power...
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Originally Posted by 95bat
My rainbows are rated at 100 watts rms and I give them like 60, anything more than that and they just get too loud It is nice to have headroom with an amp, but if you feed those components 200 watts it just might make your ears bleed lol. I wouldn't worry about giving them max power...
It is nice to have headroom with an amp, but if you feed those components 200 watts it just might make your ears bleed lol. I wouldn't worry about giving them max power...
dont underpower your speaker tho, i would just get one that half way matches that of the sub and you can always turn the gain up or down however you choose, but never underpower a subwoofer that can be more straining on a sub than overpowering it
Originally Posted by Goldstreak65
That makes sence, I have a convertible so I just wanna make sure when I'm cruisin down the highway I can get it loud enough. I've never heard of rainbows before. I take it thats the Company name.
I don't want to ever use anything else
Originally Posted by 98ls1ttop
dont underpower your speaker tho, i would just get one that half way matches that of the sub and you can always turn the gain up or down however you choose, but never underpower a subwoofer that can be more straining on a sub than overpowering it
Some of the highest quality audio components (tube amplifiers) use like under 20 watts of power and they will give you the best sound you'll ever hear.
Originally Posted by dragonrage
hahahahah. Take the RC amp challenge.
20 watts of super clean power from a tube amp will sound better than a 200 watt distorted, clipped signal.
I'd rather have 20 clean watts than 200 "dirty" ones
I do agree "a watt is a watt" but not all amps give "a watt" the same way
Which is where my comparison is coming in I guess.On top of that, it would also be argued that Goldstreak65 would not hear a difference with 200 watts as compared to 125 watts. Supposedly you need to double your power to make an audible difference... I am not really a full believer in that, though. Or I have super human hearing, one of the two
I have 2 sets of SS components powered with 250 watts to each set of tweeter/woofer. They sound great, to be honest. My friend had Type R's in his acura with about 125 watts rms going to each set of comp mid/tweeter, and mine definitely sounded better. These two cars do have great difference in accoustic qualities, but I feel if ur looking for midbass, look no further than SS at the accomodation price.
SS midbass is great for the price. Get em for waht 260 a set? its not bad, if u want top gun stuff under a grand look into MB Q line or Focal.
Ive had varioous setups for mid/tweeter and this is the best thus far. Went from fosgate to Infinity to kicker. Infinities were much too bright and the huge magnet on the Infinity Perfects DOES NOTHING for midbass. Fosgate was OK.
PS: I might try Type X's, I hear good things.
SS midbass is great for the price. Get em for waht 260 a set? its not bad, if u want top gun stuff under a grand look into MB Q line or Focal.
Ive had varioous setups for mid/tweeter and this is the best thus far. Went from fosgate to Infinity to kicker. Infinities were much too bright and the huge magnet on the Infinity Perfects DOES NOTHING for midbass. Fosgate was OK.
PS: I might try Type X's, I hear good things.
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Originally Posted by 95bat
Yeah, Rainbow is the company's name. They have numerous first place finished in SQ competitions. The thing I love about Rainbow is that you can get their bottom of the line equipment and it will still sound more amazing than most everything else.
I don't want to ever use anything else
LOL you will NOT hurt a subwoofer or component speaker by giving it less than its rated power. The only reason they have a rated power is a safety issue with driver duability and morons using audio equipment.
Some of the highest quality audio components (tube amplifiers) use like under 20 watts of power and they will give you the best sound you'll ever hear.
I don't want to ever use anything else
LOL you will NOT hurt a subwoofer or component speaker by giving it less than its rated power. The only reason they have a rated power is a safety issue with driver duability and morons using audio equipment.
Some of the highest quality audio components (tube amplifiers) use like under 20 watts of power and they will give you the best sound you'll ever hear.
I agree that peak watts mean nothing........ But more watts is ALWAYS better. If your looking at SQ, headroom is your best friend. Having an amplifier use minimal force means LOWER % THD than one driven full force. ALL given u gotta see where the THD starts in the first place.
PS:you can hurt a speaker more by underpowering than overpowering. THD and clipping hurts voice coils. Its when the signal is DC that it hurts the speaker. Im sure someone a little more knowledgable will chime in.
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Originally Posted by 95bat
Yeah, Rainbow is the company's name. They have numerous first place finished in SQ competitions. The thing I love about Rainbow is that you can get their bottom of the line equipment and it will still sound more amazing than most everything else.
I don't want to ever use anything else
LOL you will NOT hurt a subwoofer or component speaker by giving it less than its rated power. The only reason they have a rated power is a safety issue with driver duability and morons using audio equipment.
Some of the highest quality audio components (tube amplifiers) use like under 20 watts of power and they will give you the best sound you'll ever hear.
I don't want to ever use anything else
LOL you will NOT hurt a subwoofer or component speaker by giving it less than its rated power. The only reason they have a rated power is a safety issue with driver duability and morons using audio equipment.
Some of the highest quality audio components (tube amplifiers) use like under 20 watts of power and they will give you the best sound you'll ever hear.
I have 540 rms to a set of morels rated at 140. I have 1050rms to 3 8"s rated at 125 each.
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Originally Posted by 95bat
My rainbows are rated at 100 watts rms and I give them like 60, anything more than that and they just get too loud It is nice to have headroom with an amp, but if you feed those components 200 watts it just might make your ears bleed lol. I wouldn't worry about giving them max power...
It is nice to have headroom with an amp, but if you feed those components 200 watts it just might make your ears bleed lol. I wouldn't worry about giving them max power... TECH Fanatic
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As far as those speakers. The kickers can produce more midbass (without proper install, this wont be achieved). I used to run the R's, and for the money, they are a pretty nice setup. You cant go wrong either way.
Honestly, it still boils down what sounds good to you. What may sound good to me, may not sound good to you. Just listen to a few sets. There's many companies that make nice components. The downside is at what price.
It's like buying shoes, if you buy cheap shoes and your feet hurt, why bother buying cheap shoes?
It's like buying shoes, if you buy cheap shoes and your feet hurt, why bother buying cheap shoes?
Originally Posted by SSactionLs1
90% of speaker issues, are do to lack of power. Lack of power causes distortion. Distortion blows speakers.
I have 540 rms to a set of morels rated at 140. I have 1050rms to 3 8"s rated at 125 each.
I have 540 rms to a set of morels rated at 140. I have 1050rms to 3 8"s rated at 125 each.
This is like saying you will damage your car driving it if you don't floor it from every stop light. It makes no sense.