MAD Racing and Arizen Racing seats
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Has anyone tried the MAD racing seats? they look identical to the Arizen's but are $220 cheaper. Actually i think the MAD seats ARE the old Arizen seats or Yonaka Motorsports Seats.
Arizen leathers - $670 Shipped w/ Double locking sliders
MAD leathers - $450 shipped with universal sliders
**EDIT: MAD Racing = Yonaka motorsports seats, they both dont have lumbar support... arizens have lumbar.. Is lumbar worth $200?
Old Arizens -
MAD Racing -
New Arizens -
Arizen leathers - $670 Shipped w/ Double locking sliders
MAD leathers - $450 shipped with universal sliders
**EDIT: MAD Racing = Yonaka motorsports seats, they both dont have lumbar support... arizens have lumbar.. Is lumbar worth $200?
Old Arizens -
![](http://www.arizenracingsports.com/images/Sonoma2.jpg)
![](http://www.arizenracingsports.com/images/Camaro4.jpg)
MAD Racing -
![](http://www.madracingconcepts.com/Seats/images/leather.jpg)
New Arizens -
![](http://www.arizenracingsports.com/images/NewSeats_19b.jpg)
![](http://www.arizenracingsports.com/images/frame1-md2.jpg)
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Actually i think the MAD seats ARE the old Arizen seats or Yonaka Motorsports Seats.
I would agree..I found Arizen about 10 months ago and have been stalling....I think they make or whoever makes them makes a very good seat...Im almost certin Im going in that direction...
Im looking at them to match my stock "Neutral" interior..so the seats look stock.....
I would agree..I found Arizen about 10 months ago and have been stalling....I think they make or whoever makes them makes a very good seat...Im almost certin Im going in that direction...
Im looking at them to match my stock "Neutral" interior..so the seats look stock.....
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I just ordered a set of black leather mad racing seats. I haven't installed them in my car yet but this is my impression of them:
1. Leather is real leather good-high quality, way better than stock leather. Pretty close to quality of my Acura TSX leather.
2. Im a 34 waist, the butt support feels just a little tight and might get annoying on long rides.
3. The shoulder support is as good as stock, which means no shoulder support in my opinion. I'll be using harnesses anyway eventually so no biggie to me.
4. They are just a tad bit wobbly and don't feel extremely solid but for 200 a piece I'll take those small hits.
5. Universal sliders are cheap. I don't know how they will work when I sit in them, but they probably won't feel that amazing
Things like how well the seats hold up will take time to figure out and actually how comfortable they are on longer rides. They aren't like extremely high quality amazing, but you get what you pay for and 200 a piece you can't beat.
1. Leather is real leather good-high quality, way better than stock leather. Pretty close to quality of my Acura TSX leather.
2. Im a 34 waist, the butt support feels just a little tight and might get annoying on long rides.
3. The shoulder support is as good as stock, which means no shoulder support in my opinion. I'll be using harnesses anyway eventually so no biggie to me.
4. They are just a tad bit wobbly and don't feel extremely solid but for 200 a piece I'll take those small hits.
5. Universal sliders are cheap. I don't know how they will work when I sit in them, but they probably won't feel that amazing
Things like how well the seats hold up will take time to figure out and actually how comfortable they are on longer rides. They aren't like extremely high quality amazing, but you get what you pay for and 200 a piece you can't beat.
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I just f***ed up big time......... I have the Arizen Brackets, the MRC seats, and the MRC universal sliders.
I was planning on doing things in this order:
1. Attach sliders to brackets
2. Attach sliders with brackets to seats
3. Install seats into car
When I tried 2, I stripped the hole attaching the rails to the seats after I twisted the head off of the bolt that the rails come with. I'm beyond pissed. I'm not sure if it was because I should have first attached the rails to the seats, then to the brackets, or if the Arizen brackets really don't line up the rails with the seats.
So I don't know what I'm going to do now.... I've slowly thrown away large amounts of my money by making stupid mistakes. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? I am not good with fixing stripped bolt holes
I just spent 3 weeks trying to drill out a stripped strut torx bolt, and got some swaybar brackets box welded only to find one doesnt line up correctly wtih my chassis.
I was planning on doing things in this order:
1. Attach sliders to brackets
2. Attach sliders with brackets to seats
3. Install seats into car
When I tried 2, I stripped the hole attaching the rails to the seats after I twisted the head off of the bolt that the rails come with. I'm beyond pissed. I'm not sure if it was because I should have first attached the rails to the seats, then to the brackets, or if the Arizen brackets really don't line up the rails with the seats.
So I don't know what I'm going to do now.... I've slowly thrown away large amounts of my money by making stupid mistakes. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? I am not good with fixing stripped bolt holes
I just spent 3 weeks trying to drill out a stripped strut torx bolt, and got some swaybar brackets box welded only to find one doesnt line up correctly wtih my chassis.
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Originally Posted by z28bryan
I just f***ed up big time......... I have the Arizen Brackets, the MRC seats, and the MRC universal sliders.
I was planning on doing things in this order:
1. Attach sliders to brackets
2. Attach sliders with brackets to seats
3. Install seats into car
When I tried 2, I stripped the hole attaching the rails to the seats after I twisted the head off of the bolt that the rails come with. I'm beyond pissed. I'm not sure if it was because I should have first attached the rails to the seats, then to the brackets, or if the Arizen brackets really don't line up the rails with the seats.
So I don't know what I'm going to do now.... I've slowly thrown away large amounts of my money by making stupid mistakes. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? I am not good with fixing stripped bolt holes
I just spent 3 weeks trying to drill out a stripped strut torx bolt, and got some swaybar brackets box welded only to find one doesnt line up correctly wtih my chassis.![Cry](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cry.gif)
I was planning on doing things in this order:
1. Attach sliders to brackets
2. Attach sliders with brackets to seats
3. Install seats into car
When I tried 2, I stripped the hole attaching the rails to the seats after I twisted the head off of the bolt that the rails come with. I'm beyond pissed. I'm not sure if it was because I should have first attached the rails to the seats, then to the brackets, or if the Arizen brackets really don't line up the rails with the seats.
So I don't know what I'm going to do now.... I've slowly thrown away large amounts of my money by making stupid mistakes. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? I am not good with fixing stripped bolt holes
I just spent 3 weeks trying to drill out a stripped strut torx bolt, and got some swaybar brackets box welded only to find one doesnt line up correctly wtih my chassis.
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Here's my offering of options:
1) Drill it out, re-tap it MAJOR PITA...
2) Drill it out, use a new bolt and a nut on the other side... MEDIUM PITA...
3) Cut it out (dremel) use a new bolt and washer/flat piece of steel to press against the huge hole... GHETTO...
4) Leave it the hell alone, find a place on the seat right below it or above it, drill a new hole, drill a corresponding hole in the sliders, put a bolt and nut through it and be done with it
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Oh, here's my Mad Racing seats:
![](http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/markdelisle/My%20Mad%20Racing%20Concepts%20Seats/MRC89.jpg)
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![](http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/markdelisle/My%20Mad%20Racing%20Concepts%20Seats/MRC96.jpg)
I just added my own lumbar for under $20
! KANDY SS said Arizen lumbar kind of sucks anyways...
Here's my write-up (the cheap lumbar how-to is in there as well):
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/640253-how-install-aftermarket-mad-racing-arizen-recaro-seats-factory-rails.html
![](http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/markdelisle/My%20Mad%20Racing%20Concepts%20Seats/MRC89.jpg)
![](http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/markdelisle/My%20Mad%20Racing%20Concepts%20Seats/MRC90.jpg)
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I just added my own lumbar for under $20
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Here's my write-up (the cheap lumbar how-to is in there as well):
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/640253-how-install-aftermarket-mad-racing-arizen-recaro-seats-factory-rails.html
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I have no clue how any of you guys got the MRC universal sliders bolted onto the seats. I must be doing something wrong. It's extremely hard to move the slider with your hand to get clearance to the bolt holes. The cheap *** sliders are all seized in certain areas. YOu have to hammer/bend the little prongs so you can fit the bar onto the sliders.
I'm this close to making brackets and using my stock sliders, which means waste of money buying the Arizen Brackets. This whole thing is getting to be re-god-damn-diculous. I am taking a break for another day so I don't break anything else getting pissed.
I'm this close to making brackets and using my stock sliders, which means waste of money buying the Arizen Brackets. This whole thing is getting to be re-god-damn-diculous. I am taking a break for another day so I don't break anything else getting pissed.
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Originally Posted by z28bryan
I have no clue how any of you guys got the MRC universal sliders bolted onto the seats. I must be doing something wrong. It's extremely hard to move the slider with your hand to get clearance to the bolt holes. The cheap *** sliders are all seized in certain areas. YOu have to hammer/bend the little prongs so you can fit the bar onto the sliders.
I'm this close to making brackets and using my stock sliders, which means waste of money buying the Arizen Brackets. This whole thing is getting to be re-god-damn-diculous. I am taking a break for another day so I don't break anything else getting pissed.
I'm this close to making brackets and using my stock sliders, which means waste of money buying the Arizen Brackets. This whole thing is getting to be re-god-damn-diculous. I am taking a break for another day so I don't break anything else getting pissed.
My MRC sliders slid real easily... Are yours maybe not greased? Too bad you don't live close, I'd just trade you my stock rails and adapter brackets for you Arizen brackets
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Originally Posted by is300lex
whoa dude check out those ******* seats
you get two more tenths of second off your sick racing 1/4 mile time with those super nice seats?
you get two more tenths of second off your sick racing 1/4 mile time with those super nice seats?
I haven't even been to the 1/4 mile yet so I wouldn't know, just autox and the speedway. And I'm sure the seats won't shave much off my 1/4 mile times anyway, but I didn't buy them for 1/4 mile time improvement. I bought them to have a decent cheap seat that provides better support for racing. Which it only appears to have better support lower down and not as much shoulder support unfortunately, but that's what racing harnesses are for.
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Originally Posted by CULATR
hey whats the difference in the MRC sliders & Arizen brackets got a side by side comparison pic???
Arizen brackets are brackets that bolt to universal sliders and then bolt to the floor of whatever car the Arizen brackets are made for.
I did not use them at all, I made mounting plates which allowed me to mount the factory rails to the seats.
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Originally Posted by DEMONBIRD
All of the seats (MRC, Arizen, Recaro, etc...) come with universal sliders...
Arizen brackets are brackets that bolt to universal sliders and then bolt to the floor of whatever car the Arizen brackets are made for.
I did not use them at all, I made mounting plates which allowed me to mount the factory rails to the seats.
Arizen brackets are brackets that bolt to universal sliders and then bolt to the floor of whatever car the Arizen brackets are made for.
I did not use them at all, I made mounting plates which allowed me to mount the factory rails to the seats.
When I attached the sliders to the brackets, and then tried to attach the bracket/slider combo to the seats, the holes dont line up properly between the slider and the seat.
I am trying a different approach with the seat that I didn't strip the threads underneath, and so far I'm struggling to get the sliders to mount up to the seats, never mind attach the bracket afterward.
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hmmm...
I bought my seats from arizen and the brackets/sliders. They installed in 20 min, but I did drill the holes out so the door wouldn't hit them as much.
I bought my seats from arizen and the brackets/sliders. They installed in 20 min, but I did drill the holes out so the door wouldn't hit them as much.