5 Ways the 4th Gen Camaro is Better than the 5th
12-13-2016, 12:36 PM
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I agree with all five points, though I will also be the first to admit that a direct comparison isn't really fair or accurate as there is a generation gap in-between. There should have been a 2003-2009 offering as the "5th gen"; plus the 2010 model doesn't really pick up where the 4th gen left off, it's basically a clean sheet of paper version of the nameplate, albeit with retro-influenced styling.
As for visibility, I've driven and owned many different types of cars and I find 4th gen visibility to be very good.
As for visibility, I've driven and owned many different types of cars and I find 4th gen visibility to be very good.
12-23-2016, 12:13 PM
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After having both.. a 5th gen 2010 and selling it after 3 years, and then getting a 4th gen.. which I drive now I have to say that I like the 4th gen more. The 5th gen is just a huge car with terrible visibility. It is only after having both that you realize this very important point about visibility. When a car robs you of visibility it robs you of driving pleasure. Think about it. If you put yourself in a box, with no windows and get to 100mph in 3 seconds it is fast.. but where is the enjoyment? This is what the 5th gen does to a certain extent. It robs you of pleasure because you cannot see and thus feel the driving experience. Take the 4th gen for example, take the t tops off and it is simply a glorious drive and feeling. Further more, do I really need to be pushing around 4000 plus pounds of machine every where I go? Why do they need to make the 5th gen so big, so heavy? I am sure that history will tell that the 5th gens will not be worth that much in the long run as classic cars due to this stupid design. After all look at what a 2010 is going for right now. they are around 15k. Mustangs are fetching more. This is mostly due to the fact that they are big bloated tanks you cannot see out of. The LS3 engine on the other hand is a monster. I love it. However, it got only about 11-13 miles per gallon at best while my ls1 now gets about 16-18 mpg. If chevy would drop the ls3 in a smaller car the size of my Gen4 and with visability like my Gen4 i would want one. Long live the Gen 4!
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12-25-2016, 09:44 PM
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After having both.. a 5th gen 2010 and selling it after 3 years, and then getting a 4th gen.. which I drive now I have to say that I like the 4th gen more. The 5th gen is just a huge car with terrible visibility. It is only after having both that you realize this very important point about visibility. When a car robs you of visibility it robs you of driving pleasure. Think about it. If you put yourself in a box, with no windows and get to 100mph in 3 seconds it is fast.. but where is the enjoyment? This is what the 5th gen does to a certain extent. It robs you of pleasure because you cannot see and thus feel the driving experience. Take the 4th gen for example, take the t tops off and it is simply a glorious drive and feeling. Further more, do I really need to be pushing around 4000 plus pounds of machine every where I go? Why do they need to make the 5th gen so big, so heavy? I am sure that history will tell that the 5th gens will not be worth that much in the long run as classic cars due to this stupid design. After all look at what a 2010 is going for right now. they are around 15k. Mustangs are fetching more. This is mostly due to the fact that they are big bloated tanks you cannot see out of. The LS3 engine on the other hand is a monster. I love it. However, it got only about 11-13 miles per gallon at best while my ls1 now gets about 16-18 mpg. If chevy would drop the ls3 in a smaller car the size of my Gen4 and with visability like my Gen4 i would want one. Long live the Gen 4!
12-27-2016, 10:24 AM
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I agree. I only drove a 5th Gen for a bit. It did not impress me enough to want to trade up and have a car payment for a few years. I also do not like all the stupid, needless crap that is put on cars now-a-days. I think I will keep my 4th Gen until either it or I turn to dust.
AMEN!. One of my favorite things about my 4th Gen is that IT HAS NO TRACTION CONTROL. Mine was built without it. I used to hate the fact that on the stock 5th gen, I had to press the traction controll button and hold it for 7 seconds to get all that stuff turned off so I can really enjoy the car. The problem was that for me, most of the time the URGE to get on it would come as I see a nice turn for example. I dont have 7 seconds every time before I see that corner that I like to hit.
I just wish I could get a warrenty for this 4th gen car. I have no peace of mind with this machine. If something breaks it is going to be expensive and all out of pocket. With 90k on the clock it will probably be impossible to get an extended warrenty. With a new car I have a warrenty but also a Huge Monthly payment. I am going to hope for the best and love every minute of driving it.
I went out to drive a New Mustang a few days ago just for this reason. They have certified used fords with great warrenties. The mustang.. well that Coyote engine is powerful. The Stang is a very fast, slippery car. I mean you can light up the tires very easy and the back end slides around. There is not a whole lot of low end torque like the LS1 has which I really like. The interior of the mustang is ok to poor. The more cars I get in and out of the more I realize the design of the 4th gen is simply almost perfect. The sloping nature of the car is fabricated right into the driving position and feels very organic. The 4th Gen feels less like a "hot rod" and more like a corvette. I would not want to move out of this 4th gen into a Mustang. I would miss my 4th gen.
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The more cars I get in and out of the more I realize the design of the 4th gen is simply almost perfect. The sloping nature of the car is fabricated right into the driving position and feels very organic. The 4th Gen feels less like a "hot rod" and more like a corvette.
12-27-2016, 10:03 PM
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The Fourth-Generation Camaro Was the Best Camaro
It was the last original Camaro Chevy made, and it had so much potential.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...e-best-camaro/
It was the last original Camaro Chevy made, and it had so much potential.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...e-best-camaro/
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AMEN!. One of my favorite things about my 4th Gen is that IT HAS NO TRACTION CONTROL. Mine was built without it. I used to hate the fact that on the stock 5th gen, I had to press the traction controll button and hold it for 7 seconds to get all that stuff turned off so I can really enjoy the car. The problem was that for me, most of the time the URGE to get on it would come as I see a nice turn for example. I dont have 7 seconds every time before I see that corner that I like to hit.
I just wish I could get a warrenty for this 4th gen car. I have no peace of mind with this machine. If something breaks it is going to be expensive and all out of pocket. With 90k on the clock it will probably be impossible to get an extended warrenty. With a new car I have a warrenty but also a Huge Monthly payment. I am going to hope for the best and love every minute of driving it.
I went out to drive a New Mustang a few days ago just for this reason. They have certified used fords with great warrenties. The mustang.. well that Coyote engine is powerful. The Stang is a very fast, slippery car. I mean you can light up the tires very easy and the back end slides around. There is not a whole lot of low end torque like the LS1 has which I really like. The interior of the mustang is ok to poor. The more cars I get in and out of the more I realize the design of the 4th gen is simply almost perfect. The sloping nature of the car is fabricated right into the driving position and feels very organic. The 4th Gen feels less like a "hot rod" and more like a corvette. I would not want to move out of this 4th gen into a Mustang. I would miss my 4th gen.
I just wish I could get a warrenty for this 4th gen car. I have no peace of mind with this machine. If something breaks it is going to be expensive and all out of pocket. With 90k on the clock it will probably be impossible to get an extended warrenty. With a new car I have a warrenty but also a Huge Monthly payment. I am going to hope for the best and love every minute of driving it.
I went out to drive a New Mustang a few days ago just for this reason. They have certified used fords with great warrenties. The mustang.. well that Coyote engine is powerful. The Stang is a very fast, slippery car. I mean you can light up the tires very easy and the back end slides around. There is not a whole lot of low end torque like the LS1 has which I really like. The interior of the mustang is ok to poor. The more cars I get in and out of the more I realize the design of the 4th gen is simply almost perfect. The sloping nature of the car is fabricated right into the driving position and feels very organic. The 4th Gen feels less like a "hot rod" and more like a corvette. I would not want to move out of this 4th gen into a Mustang. I would miss my 4th gen.
I hate how cars and computers are integrating more and more.I hear you about the new car with warranty versus paid off car with maintenance issues. I bought my 4th Gen new and am the sole owner. I am trying to keep up with routine maintenance as well as some more in depth maintenance. Last winter I refreshed my front end and replaced all the shocks and springs. It was pricey but it should be good for another 60k miles and beyond. My list keeps growing but my car still runs strong.
Also, I know this has been beat to death but the vision in the 5th Gens is terrible. I know owners say "you get used to it" with the side mirrors or whatever. Sorry, I just can't do that. I need to see like I can with just about any other car out there. I was gritting my teeth backing out of a parking spot in a 5th Gen.
02-09-2017, 05:59 PM
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I currently own both as you can see in the sig and even though i love my 5th gen and the ls3 its just not as cool to me as the 4th gen. The link in the original post didnt lod for me but in my opinion the 4th gen is more of the all around car that can make anyone happy where as the 5th gen lags in some peoples interests. I ended up with the 1LE 5th gen so it does handle and steer better than my 4th gens but a regular 5th gen isnt that far apart from a 4th in that aspect. 5th gens biggest down fall for me was its weight and the fact that they didnt offer the ls7 in it like gm originally had thought about doing but i love them both in different ways.
02-09-2017, 06:46 PM
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Great reply Docrocket. I also had the gen 5 and yea. the thing that bothered me the most really is the size and weight and the bad bad bad vision. Driving the Fourth gen with the t tops off really is a great wide open experience. However..... Just today, I had to order a new Tranny. the old one was just not quite shifting how I wanted. It sucked. So I messed around with the line pressure.. got some nice firm shifts and was loving it. The clutches for 3 and 4 wont grab. I cant go over 30 mph now. My hope, is that I get this new transmission and it shifts perfectly. I get a good tune and really enjoy this car.
